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Voting Local and Covid Fatigue


We talk voting for local offices and the onset of Covid-19 fatigue

Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. Well, hello, welcome to another addition of inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson. We'll got a lot to talk about today, including covid numbers still continue to rise. collegies are beginning to feel the impact of that a lot of students. Obviously, when you're young, socialisteing not really a big thing for you, and when that happens, the numbers go rise. We'll talk more about that. Also, early it's early voting, so you can definitely get out there and vote early if you want to. You have until November first to do early voting and we're going to talk about the people that you come out for locally and people does it, does it really matter how important it is to vote for them? Will get into what that what I'm talking about there, and also just the fatigue of trying to social distance, of wearing the masks, all that stuff can definitely weigh on you. We'll get into that as well. But someone who never weighs on mean someone's always I've brought a fresh air. It is the minuter reporters, Patty Singer, with today's have line news. Good afternoon, Patty. Do you spend all week? I try to keep it fresh, Patty, I try to keep it fresh. A Pad, the pen beside the bad you wake up at two in the morning and write down this right down the and control the segue. Put a lot of effort and it is it is appreciated. Thank you. Oh, my pleasure, my player. Okay, here we go and minority reporter. This week, study brockport launches to programs to support students of color. The Gates police have suspended use of strong memorials. Psych ed over an issue with discharge planning. Students have are asked to create portraits of Anna Murray Douglas. And another article of interest to young people, Girl Scouts in western New York can earn an anti racism patch. More on Covid, Matt The county will review the effectiveness of covid nineteen testing at churches before committing two more events in other city news, the First Police Accountability Board Executive Director says that, quote, our enemy is the deep structures of racism and injustice. This week's cover story is the Rochester City School District Board President Van White says that poverty is the glass ceiling for graduation rates. In a voting story, a pole says shows that older black women believe in the power of the vote. And more election news after November three. That is when the hard work will begin for whoever becomes president. Rochester teachers prefer to keep remote learning for another quarter. And in this week's opinions and editorials, George Payne writes that only parents can stop their children's addiction to social media and Michael Vaughan, in something to think about, has a litmus test for voting that. Thank you so much, Patty, and I'm actually very curious about that social media story, so I'm going to be checking that out because I know a lot of people are stuck on their phones scrolling and facebooking and tweeting and instagramming. So definitely good headline news stories. Here's and if you want to get the full version of those headline news stories, you could do what I did and you could subscribe to the minor reporter by going to the minor reporter dotnet.

All the stories are there. The option to subscribe is there as well. I did that and I will be able to read further into those stories. So if you want to do the same, definitely go ahead and subscribe. Also, if you have any questions or suggestions, Patty and the good folks at the minor reporter are always willing to listen to those, so you can submit an email to them at editor at minority a reporter dotnet. And if you want to reach out to us here at inside the margins radio as well, you can do that. You can send an email to inside margins at gmailcom or directly to me at Matt Wilson at inside the margins RADIOCOM. And of course you can always visit inside the margins to catch any episode that you missed, including this one. If you join late and you want to, you want to hear the entire episode, go to inside the margins RADIOCOM. You can find all the full versions of our e episodes there. Also, they're available as a podcast on IHEART radio and also wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we're going to go ahead and take a break and when we come back we are going to talk about early voting. We're talk about Covid, of course, because covid is not going anywhere, regardless of how much we want it to, and some other things. We will be back soon, so don't you go anywhere. This is inside the margins. All right, welcome back and thank you for hanging out with me and patty right here on inside the margins. Okay, Patty, so let's go ahead and jump right into it. We got a few things to talk about today. So let's start off with voting first, because that's the big thing that I've everyone's talking about right now. Election Day is obviously November three, but here in New York state we have joined forty two other states and have opened up to early voting. So people have the option right now, as in today, if you want to go early vote, you can, and you can do that until November first. And we were talking before, Patty, about the positions and people, the elected of ficus that you can vote for. And everyone talks about the national picture right the presidential election. That's the big thing right now. But I want to talk about local and you brought up a pretty good point. A lot of times when we talk about local and we talked like telling clerks and and other other city officials what those aren't really happening right now. It looks like it's mostly just Senate that we can that we collect the judges. Am I correct there? Right, and you know, it's it's interesting because judges, they think, by the virtue of their position, limited in how they can campaign. Right, there are. There are limits placed upon them and so, you know, I thought about that. Every time I go vote and I see the judge's names, they say, you know, I have not been involved in the court system as a reporter, I have sat in a few court rooms and, you know, attended a trial or arraignment or things like that. So I don't pardon these says. Well, should judges be appointed? And then I think, well, now there were, then they'll be appointed. It'll be patronage and you know, is that the best system? Well, we vote for them. Well, how are you supposed to a judge is supposed to interpret the law. How are you supposed to vote for a judge? HMM, why should a judge have a party, right, if they're just supposed to interpret the one and we we get I think no sensitizes the right word to that, but we become aware of it, especially now when we've just gone through Supreme Court nominee hearings and we hear about you know what, you an original list of constrict constructionalist do you do? You legislate from the bench. I mean you know, the judiciary is supposed to interpret the laws that are written by the legislative branch and signed by the president. In a sense, so...

...and obviously New York as a president, but the governor, and they're supposed to interpret the laws that come through this legislative process. Well, right, I I'm not quite sure how I feel about vote. I do, you know, and I try to research them, but I'm not quite sure what it is UN voting for, you know, and at this at this level, a county court judge isn't going to affect anybody's reproductive rights. You know, that's that's not what they do. So we're voting for them. I for me, again, as someone who doesn't have contact with the court system, I'm voting for someone that I hope if they had implicit bias is now a big term, big phrase. I think it is the rare person that has no implicit bias, I think. I think it's a rare person that had that has none. I think that it's people need to say, well, I may have a bias when I act in a certain way. I have to be aware of that and is my bias affecting that? But for ju for the judiciary, it should be the law. A lot of sense to people right now, because I'm not making a whole lot of about my thought process on this, but if I want to change a law, I think I have to go through the legislative process to do it. I don't think it can be left to the necessarily interpretation of a judge and I think we've seen that with the Pav Police Accountability Board. That's why it's an appeal state, because one side is appealing judge art's ruling. So we get that all the time and in our the I'm not saying judge Qu's legislating, but there are interpretations, there are different interpretations of the law. So it goes back to how do we vote for judges? It's the one who has the biggest sign. I don't know. I'm all in favor of voting for as many office as is possible. But how do we really know in that case what we're getting? And you could argue a how do we know what we're getting with Congressperson, state Senator, state assembly person, the same thing? It may all be the same thing, but it's just if you're running for a legislative office, you you get to campaign differently right now and actually you make a really good point. So you're going to. I think you might appreciate this comparison I'm going to make. So when I think of judges, I think of journalist almost, and I'll explain to you why. When you want someone reporting the news to you, you want that person to just report the news to you. You don't want them to have a spin on it right, you don't want them to tell it in a way that makes you lean, that makes your opinion go a certain way. You want them to just report what happened and leave the interpretation of it to you. So the reason why I say that it's you're right. I kind of feel that way about judges. I don't want to judge who's Democratic or Republican or anything like that. You want to judge who says this is how the law reads, this is how I interpret the law and I'm going to proceed with rulings based on on how the law is written. And now, as far as going to change laws, there's a whole different thing. That's and that's more legislated as you as you pointed out. But if you're a judge, your your judge, your your job more so, is to uphold the written law and and and and, you know, go ahead and process people with that in mind. So it is kind of weird when you see a judge who is kind of promoted via a specific party, because that that's that may emphasize. Possibly, I'm not saying it does, but it may have a, says, a possible bias or a lean, if you will, in the direction...

...when it comes to interpretation the law. So that so now you're picking a judge based on party, when I don't think a party should be part of a judge. That's just my opinion. You know, it's interesting. So there's a law sign in my neighborhood for a judge who was on every party line except democratic. So this person's on Republican, Conservative, Libertarian, green and working families. So I could I can understand Republican, Conservative, Libertarian, I write. I get that, but I how is how is this person on the green and the Working Families Party? I guess I don't understand what those parties are. I guess I don't understand up in their platform right, but I would think, I would think from what I've read about, I guess the larger Republican Platform. Some people would argue it's not terribly green. But, like I said, I may not understand those fully. But you know, the point you make about a judge being like a journalist, it's interest because true, are a if you're a reporter or not, not an opinion writer, editorial right exactly. You present the facts. However, not all the facts can fit in the space you have, so you have to select the facts that you think are the most important to that particular story. And as you were saying that, I was thinking, well, a judge picks the facts that he or she believes are pertinent to that case, and I guess that's why we have appeals, because if you take it to another judge they may find some additional facts, just like present. If you put two reporters at the same story, and this is sometimes happened, I'll be at an event and I'll write my story and I'll look at what somebody else did or some other media and I'll go we god, we did the same event, because that person picks something completely different to focus on. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. It's funny. I'm glad you mentioned that. One of the jobs I do for a different radio station as I'm I do not consider myself a reporter at all. I'm not. I'm a broadcaster, but I do I do assist in the newsroom with a with a certain company. Will just leave it there. And one of the jobs we do is when we're putting together news for broadcast is we kind of, you know, scan the stories that are out there from differ, from various different news sources and we find those stories and a lot of times those stories are longer. So for broadcast, for the listeners out there, I'll just because brief. For broadcast, you have a short mat you could be because you have to tell a bunch of stories in like two minutes. So you don't have you don't have a long time to tell go into detail with the stories that are out there. So you got to you you got to kind of trim it out down to like four liners. And because I have to do that, sometimes I go to, you know, pretty much all the outlets and BC, ABC, Fox, whenever I check out everywhere, everyone's and their version of the story, that of the day or whatever, whatever. And you're absolutely right, patty, it's it's hilarious that you mentioned that. Is I'll pull the story from two or three different sources and they're almost completely different stories, even though they're about the same thing. That happens because it's just the way the journalists interpreted what happened and the way they wrote it. So they key to on a different points than the other journalist. And none of them are none of them are not are telling like an untruth or anything. They just wrote it. They just wrote it differently. So, yeah, it's funny that you mention that. Well, I mean look at it, you know, as you say that. I think of what people make the comparison MSNBC and Fox News, right good call the same event. Or you look at newspapers that tend to be Wall Street Journal tends to be more conservative.

You know, right tends to be a little bit more, you know, center left or what, depending on where where center right you are, they could be you know, left wherever. And if you're on the left, you think something like the walls to journals could be to the right of you know. So you know the to the end, to the end of the world. So right. But you know, the people who want as many facts as possible will will seek out alternative or different media than they are normally used to. Used to getting a conversation with somebody who tends to be a way in person and was listening to exectie the other day. So you know, that's that's good, because you want to get to get different opinions in a make up your own mind. Yep, I think. I think you've ad rate point. I I actually myself tried to do that, even it doesn't matter where I fall now, and we won't get into that, but doesn't matter wherever I fall, I always like try to go to the extreme opposite end and get that damage point too. I've never been a person who just leans one way all the way. Anyways, I like to get full versions of everything. You probably make my choices on on what I'm going to do, and I think people should do that. I think, I think if you're only getting one side of things, you're if you're getting told what you want to hear all the time. Some you may be missing out on some of the things that I should happening. So you should get you should see what other people think too. You should see how the people are are viewing what's happening in the world. You shouldn't, you shouldn't just be in your own bubble and see things the way that you and your small circle of frendzee things. You just see how everyone's seeing that so you can see, even if you don't agree, you can at least understand right, and that means we've talked about this, I think, before someone. In the context, I think it means putting aside your fears that you may what you believe could be shaken, and that's good right there. My Gosh. But you know, years and years and years ago I was asked to cover this event and I said, well, why do you? Why me? I something totally I would never, you know, want you to come to the event. And part of my relectance was I thought, well, what if you know? What if you covering this changes something that I had believe for a long time? It turned out not to be the case and I had to, you know, put on my journalist hat and was mutual and talked to everybody who was involved in this and came up with the story that my editors felt was right. I'm like my golf game, right down the middle of the fairway, but it was. It can be a challenge when you have to cover something or right about something that is really going to make you question your own beliefs. Right, all right, but I think that I think that's the way you find truth, though, is this is it is to see all aspects. But what I guess the point that I'm trying to make, patties to the listeners today is find the truth that you want to find, but make sure you'll get out there and vote, because a lot of people sacrifice a lot of things. They give people like myself and you the right to do so. So I think everyone should get out there and and exercise if you can. I'm sure I know some people have issues and cannot, but if you are, if you are able, if you are registered and able to vote, I think you should all right. Speaking of other things, let's go ahead and talk about the ongoing covid situation. Obviously that's not going away anytime soon, unfortunately, and as we've seen there has...

...been a spike and we've and you and I have talked about this for months, that we've expected to see a spike come back as soon as everyone's kind of forced to go back indoors and and it gets colder and even though it's not really gotten there yet, it's that is is on its way. But the schools, has been happening at the schools, especially at the colleges? A lot of the colleges have had gatherings of students who were probably, I'm assuming a here, and you should not assume, but I'm assuming that they were probably not wearing their masks and they probably went not social distancing. Young people tend to be a little bit more fearless when it comes to those kind of things. And all of a sudden these schools see these clusters of Covid it spikes puppy at a time. Some colleges I've seen, and they have cause a lot of schools to go remote because of that. So I'm I'm sure I already know the answer to this, but I'm going to ask anyway. Do you see that? Do you see this continuing to happen? This is going to be a trend as we near the holiday season. Well, so on Saturday, the days all run together, the county health department issued an advisory or anyone who was at the Blue Horn to tecchio the Aria of sorry about that, folks in Pittsburgh over sixteen between seven eight thirty, to call the health department because a patron who reports being closer than six feet two others for an extended time, well, not wearing a mask, has tested positive for covid nineteen. Individuals who were at the establishment during that time should immediately self quarantine and get tested for covid nineteen. And this was on a six October sixteen. was that a week and a half ago or so? Yeah, symptoms can take two weeks to show themselves. One point. The Health Commissioner document those. It had said the sort of the PEA time for symptoms to come up as an eight days. So this is the sixteen and this was put out on the twenty four. Bingo, math, math, and and that's and that's a day. So I think that goes to what you say. So there was, it was indoors. Some we wasn't wearing a mask. was closer to people than six feet for a prolonged period of time, and that seems to be from what we know. What has change, what what we've learned over the months? That seems to be the consistent recipe. Yeah, and you know, the funny thing is, you were you actually said this before. I'm you said it many times. I'm I'm making you seem wise because you are wise. Patty. You mentioned before that even even though the covid numbers are alarming, you do have to take take into consideration that that is not necessarily mean that those are all numbers that were just found on that particular day. That is the that is this. That is just reported cases. So those could have been cases that work. You know, happen on other days, but nonetheless, that's you are still seeing an increase and you are correct. People are now going to be indoors more as it gets colder, as the snow starts coming, which I know that's the four little word that no one wants to hear me say. But as that begins to happen and we are forced to be indoors more, the endore, the endoor atmosphere is what seems to drive the numbers and we are heading...

...that way. and to make it worse. It's holiday time, so people are going to be gathering probably with friends and family during Thanksgiving and Christmas and all that. So we may see the cases definitely shoot up. I think we just we're just beginning to see this happening and that's just my opinion, but I think that we're going to see this continue to happen as as we go deeper into the holidays. Well, the health officials are the Monroe County Health Department's going to put out some guidance for Thanksgiving, probably, I'm going to guess, the end of this week or probably by the probably by the middle of the first week in Novembers. He's going to be my guest because people about travel. So I you can look for that. I really think within the next seven to ten days that will be out. But they're, you know, they're preparing people by saying not having large gatherings, not having large, especially indoor gatherings, and you know that goes into the fatigue part of it, because people look at I haven't I have not been. My sister was out of state. I haven't been that. I have tried five times, I think, to get there and that state continues to get on and off. New York's not any list. So and every time I seem to want to be able to have time to go there on the nauty list. So I haven't been it. So people are really want to start seeing relatives and seeing friends and you know, we have these images of holidays, of togetherness and whether that, whether that works out as well as hallmark tells us it works out of different thing. But this is this images of really of time to be together and sharing and I think holidays are going to have to look different this year. Yeah, I agree with you. You know the funny thing, and you mention fatigue. The funny thing is when this Furt, when this pandemic first hit, the numbers are high because obviously we had no idea what we're dealing with. We had no waday what this was. We weren't, we weren't really prepared for what was happening. So people were contracting this disease at a much disease, sorry, this virus, at a much faster rate because we had no idea what to do to stop it from happening. Now we do. We have an idea of how to slow us, how to slow the spread. However, we're tired of doing this, because we've been doing this since what March, or even a little before that, right, so people are just beginning to get tired of it. People are beginning to get tired of wearing the masks all the time and being away all the time and staying away from your friends and and not hanging out. So people are beginning to break the rules and the like. You said, now that we're getting closer to that holiday time where this is the epitog this is the the time where everyone's ideal thing is to be as close as possible with your family members, and we're fatigue. At the same time, I don't believe that we're going to see the numbers that we saw first. said, I don't believe that I can obviously I'm not a scientist, I am not a doctor, I have no idea, but I don't believe we're going to see the numbers that we saw when it first set right. I definitely do think we're going to see it an increase. And what's happening well, over the last towards the end of the previous week, and again, these are the cases that are the comes, the reported that day to buy the health department. As you said before, they can be they can come in different times, but they are they they show up on those particular days and there were instances of the find here real quick. Cases were in the...

...last wait, the last week. That eighty six, eight hundred, seventy eight hundred and seventy three. MMM. So those are those. Those are lots of numbers coming in at once now. So the good news is the deaths are in Earth. As of the weekend there were three hundred and six death but there have been deaths only, you know, a couple days in the last couple weeks. Right right, hospitalizations in the icee you, excuse me, the total number of hospitalizations, and they're counting now the finger lakes region, not just the Moneral County hospital, right right. People. Fourteen of those in either the icee you or on ventilators. So that seems to have stabilized now. Is that? Because just in the last couple days three cases have been high among males ten to nineteen, you knowing twenty year old women, who tend to be healthier in the first place. There was one day where there was twelve cases among women in their S. where did that come from? So you know, the the health department people are trying to trace what they call these clusters to see if they're in if there is sort of a hot spot, if people knew each other. You know, the difference between on a cluster and community spread is if someone, if you were to develop an a or I were, and we were part of a group. You know, did you go out the other night, we would arrested over your no, no, no, no, well, you may have just got into community spread. is going to be hard harder to know where we got that from. Then if we say, yeah, we went out with seven friends to X Y Z restaurant and we're there for two hours. Right to go check all those folks, they'll know contact the restaurant and see if there's any other way to do some contract to contact racing, see if there were people at adjacent tables, things like that. So we hear about a cluster, it's something that they're able to try to trace better than just if you are I show up randomly testing. President, yeah, you know, it's funny. You actually broke that down perfectly because when I when I think of how the pandemic was when it first started and how what's happening now. When the pandemic first hit, it was almost like a tsunami right, just a big wave of just what's going on. Now it's like little brush for little brush fires here and there. Look a little pop at some place whereas a bunch of people in a certain location, like I know there was at the college, I believe, with St John Fisher on the numbers in front of you, but I know what St John Fisher I like a large port the numbers of that particular day or that particular reporting. A large portion of those numbers were from that college. So it's like there's a little brush fires and certain locations that have the instances of covid versus. When it first happened, it was like just a tsunami was happening for all over the place and everywhere you had no eyear was coming from. So I think that's that's the difference between the pandemic now and when it first started, is that we have more of an idea of where it's happening and the area where it happened at, and we also have an idea of why it may have happened, where a gathering or a party or something like that. Nay, have taken place where it's brought out in that instance, where before we have no idea what was happening. So it was just popping up everywhere. But now it seems to be that, you know, I smoky bear. Only you can prevent far right, that analogy. Only you can prevent that wildfire by wearing a mask, keeping your distance, not going, you know, necessarily.

And it is it is hard. It is hard. It's hard to be to be isolated. It's hard to be isolated at any point in time in your life. It is it is very difficult now to deal with this continued isolation. We will be back soon, so don't you go anywhere. This is inside the margin. That one of the last is I want to break up bring up in regards to the covid thing as well as and we spend a great deal talking about this in our past episodes, by the way, if you're listen to those, make sure you go to inside the merge RADIOCOM shames plug. But we you talk a lot about mental health on our show because I think it's really an important aspect of what's go happening during this pandemic, and I think that plays into the fatigue as well. I was reading somewhere, and I again I don't have the information right in front of me, but I was reading somewhere about the spike in depression and the spike and attempted suicides. Even how those are, you know, in comparison to a year ago when there when there was no pandemic. It's just the numbers are astronomical in comparison. And I and this can weigh on you being isolated for so long or especially if you have like loved ones in the nursing homes or something like that, and and you know you're not able to see them and they're able to see you, or family that's far away and you can't travel to see them. It can, it really can play a lot on you and I can see why people get fatigued and they say, you know, to heck with it, I'm just going to do what I want to do. But you can't. You have to hold steady and and you can see that fight. But but, Patty, it can. It can certainly weigh on people, on somebody you know, and it's interesting that you mentioned this again. I would like two favorite words put together are bad analogy. So bad analogy reading a book called the splendid in the vial and it is about basically it's about the battle of Britain and it's a year and in the life of Britain and Churchill and everybody round him and but it's it's what you were saying reminds me of that book about how people in England had to deal with air raids night after night, night after night, thousands of people dying, homes destroyed, lives destroyed, and yet you know they're getting up and going to work. The people who survive are getting up and going to work the next day. Right, but how do we? I know in my in my life, and I am incredibly fortunate and incredibly grateful for my good fortune, I have not had a lot of prolonged suffering in my life. So I don't know what it's like to do that. Lots of people have had that. And then that brings up resiliency and can you suffer because you've learned to suffer, or can you suffer because you haven't had to suffer beforese you have a lot in the resiliency back. You know that you that you can draw on. But this is really testing our collective in our individual resiliency, because for for people like myself who have not had a lot, I mean I've had my moments, trust me about about this has been failing the whole time. But overall in my life my periods of suffering have been relatively defined. Right, right, they have been. There's been illness, there have been deaths, but there's been while I while those inform my look for the they informed me for the rest of my life. The acute phase of those have been defined. And then it's coping with, you know, the chronicness of that as it colors your life, you know, for the for the... of your days. But this, I think, is is the suffering that all of us have now. And how will we going to cope with this? And what will the suffering that we're going through now, how will that shape the rest of our lives? Yeah, whether you're when, if I know, if you're five, maybe it's just going to be. Also, when I was a little kid, they all talked about this. If you're fifteen or twenty five or fifty five, sixty five hot does what is this do to you? You know, how does this either add to your resiliency or suck all the resiliency out of your resiliency bank. Why have to hope with this? And we think of it is we are not having bombs dropped on our head. That's what I said. Do bad analogy, but we are going through incredibly traumatic times. Add the social unrest, add the economic uncertainty people going through, add the presidential election and a lot. Yeah, this is our I mean this is not the bad of a Britain. Don't but if for some people, from people, it may be the battle of written bombs dropping on their head every single night. For some people, that's what this maybe like. No, you're right, it's a lot you. I think you said it perfectly to for because I again I think in this way we're also very similar. I have also had lost, but nothing where it's been a prolonged suffering either. I it's by my the issues that we have at the deal would have been relatively short. I mean they're they have been painful moments like as you said, but nothing has been, you know, nothing I couldn't come back from. Also, I think another way that you and I were lucky in this pandemic is that you and I continue to work. You know, a lot of people saw their employment halted or ended completely. Some business, some businesses are will never come back from this and we have not experienced that, you and I, because again, you and I, even in the worst of times during the pandemic, we still had a job and we both did our job. So in those aspects we were able to kind of survived through that because we still had some sort of normalcy. You know, being able to get up and do your job is a normal part of your life. If you take that away, not just the income part, because that part obviously is very traumatic when you can't pay the bills and stay afloat, but that but that sense of purpose that you get from going to work right when you wake up every day. You have something to do, you have a purpose of the day, that is taken away as well. So now you have no purpose, no income and you can't see anybody and you then you also put on top the social justice issues and the presidential debates and the election and everything else, and it's it can be a lot. Yeah, thanks, Matt, speed dial, right about now, right. I just I'm sorry, folks, bringing you all down. Thanks. Cheer me up, I think so. Some of the day we can talk about this and in subsequent episodes as well. But a lot of stuff that's being put out now, as far as you know, trauma and mental health calls and just the police respond to, social workers repond. One of that work is being done by the city in the county I made the initial, initial impetus for that is social justice. Social Justice from me,...

...but I think we're going to see that it's going to be important for other aspects because I'm a place I may need a nine one one called not because there's any police involvement or anything like that. I just made me so we talk to and we's going to be the best person to respond to that. M The may drug use may not be anything that would it would mean any sort of law enforcement response to it. But who's going to be best to help me through that time? Be Because, well, that's so, I think, the impetus to social justice. But I think if, if the people who were in charge of rethinking the system take a big picture approach, I think they should work in some of the covid and some of the economic and some of the other general turmoil were under working what effect that's having as they plan their response. You re imagine public safety. Yeah, you want to phrase it right now. If I agree, I agree and I think. I think just having someone hear you, so you have you have a chance just to kind of get off your chest what's bothering you is important. And again, that's another reason why I appreciate doing the show with you, Patty. It's not just a fact that we get to relate this information to the listeners. That's also a way for you and I that kind of talk through what's going on as well, and we just saw allow people to listen into our conversation. And of course, we want your input as well. So if you have any suggestions, if you want to tell us ways that you may have cope through this or things that can help other people, reach out to us. Let us know. We'd love to hear from you or just see how you get through that. You can certainly reach out to the minority reporter by submitting an email at editor at minority reporter Dotnet, or you can send us an email here at inside the margins radio, at inside margins at gmailcom Patty, always a pleasure. Thank you so much again and again. I said, as I said earlier, I think in these times one of the most important things that you can do to get to stay educated about what's happening around your community is by supporting local journalism. That is important. Yes, you can certainly get the national story. That's important too, but what's most important to you as what's happening in your immediate surroundings and your local community. So stay up to date with local news by supporting local journalism, and you can do that by subscribing to the minority reporter, by going to minority reporter Dotnet, and you know that option is subscribe digitally or getting the hard called hard copy is there for you, Patty. Thank you so much. I always appreciate you and you know what to listening to again, shameless of promotion, but listening to shows like this, because you know we are we're two people talking and sharing our ideas and none of this is scripted and half of what we're talking about just sort of comes up from something that we was was said five minutes earlier. But I mean supporting something like this too. This is just this kind of raw conversation. It's going on and hopefully we give you, our very valued listeners, something to think about as well, you know, and we appreciate that you are listening to us and that that's what we want to hear from you, but hopefully something we say. We're feeling bad now too, right. You know, he's supposed to... confectonals, but no, you know that sad. So it's difficult for us. No, it's difficult for everybody, and to acknowledge that is not a weakness. I totally agree with that. I think the first part I think of that and be be I was going to end, but I want to I want to say this real quick too. I think that's a problem a lot of people have, is admitting things are wrong, right, because because you want to keep that stern and strong exterior look to yourself. So you have to walk around. We're cutting our things. Fine. Listen, in this world, especially today, we all know things aren't fine. Just like Patty said, we're both we're both going through it too. We know it's not fine. So you don't have to pretend it's fine. And if I can, just like I said earlier, if there's if they're thing, if there are things that we're missing that you want US talk about, that is is troubling to you, please, please, let us know. I we are. There's no topic that we're not going to look into a little bit for you. We we don't. We don't mind. We're here for you. We want to support the community also, so we want to hear what you what's going on out there and what's bothering you and what's on your mind and what we can talk about to maybe help you get through that. And you know what manly is. To close with this, you know what to one one if somebody means a professional to talk to, call to one. Absolutely that's that's great advice, two on one, because although patty is a very professional journalist and I'm a professional prodcaster, we're not, unfortunately, professional at that aspect. So certainly to one one certainly the best option for you there. Once again, Patty, I said, it's always a plug you're talking you. I always appreciate it. Thanks. Have a good week. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom.

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