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Episode · 1 year ago

The Vaccination Special

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Patti talks about her ride along with the PIC team ...and we talk about the impact of vaccines... 

Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. Hello, good afternoon and welcome to another edition of inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson. As people are getting vaccinated and it's easier to get vaccinated, restrictions are being loosened up the bar and restaurant industry, along with the movie theaters there. They can be open longer. There's some you know, the researchers are lesson of how many people that can be in there. You don't have to eat stuff when you drink. We're going to talk about all that stuff later on in the in the show we talked about our topics. Also, we're to talk about how easy it is to get vexed. It now it's not difficult. I know before you had to go online and get to play online lottery that to try to get yourself a vacination appointment, but that is no longer the case should be a little easier for you and we'll talk about that. But before we talk about all of that, let's go ahead and bring in my good friend and, in my opinion, one of the best local reporters around, Patty Sing. Hey, Patty, how are it today? Oh Matt, is it Monday again? This is, you know what we are the best part of Monday, absolutely, and this this is my favorite part of Monday, talking to you and talking about what's going on in the city. I appreciate that. So I know there's a couple things happening in the minor reporter that people made one check out this this week, and I just want to I know there's a story about pick. Is that correct? That is correct. We is minority reporter. We were one of the first to go on a ride along with the person in crisis team. The city has been inviting. You'll see this and it's going to roll out through media. Myself and general ten, we were the first one lighted to go and so we wrote. Along with the person in crisis team. We met with Drey Johnson and Rene Breen. They are to shift leads for the person in Christis team, and we spent about four hours with them. We did go to to a couple calls with them and we went. We also just sat in the office and talked with them and it's you know, this is a new program yeah, they announced it in January. They're still in the pilot phase. They are making improvements as they go. Initially in the pilot phase they could not, they couldn't go with ourpd and RPD couldn't call them if they thought they needed a social work, mental health, you know, professor to this that changed probably I think it was about the beginning of April or maybe the very late in March. There was some changes to the dispatch system and how calls were going to be sent out so you could have a CO response. I mean there's some technology shine this as well. PUSS, I think, I think everybody saw the need of me why I have a why I have a person in crisis team if you can't call them when other people respond to it and they find out that there's a crisis, that makes absolutely no sense whatso lever and it was a question that I had asked very early on. Why can't they go? Why can't they be called to cities? Credit they tried to make one of those is the first adjustments and they've done that. So I did ask Renee Andre about safety factor and I think that's on a lot of people's minds when they're going into these calls, particularly if they respond alone. There will be some calls they will go to on their own. There will be some calls they will go to with Urd. If this is a joint, what they call a CO response, ourpd has to make sure the scene is safe before pick comes in, if there's a weapon, if there's if there's something that may that's you know, in a little heightened temperature and the thing. They want to make sure that everybody's going to be safe on this. So when I asked them, I said, well, what if you go to your own call, going on your own, and you you get a sense? You know, they have to practice a lot of situational awen sure sure they were saying, you know, they'll go into the have to go into somebody's house. Right, that's where the person is right, but houses are not the safest places in the world for for a lot of people. I know I have I have police friends who say you never go in the kitchen. It's always going to be a weapon in the kitchen right. You you need to be aware of that. And they were talking about how at times they have they how they, I don't say control of the situation, how they manage the situation. Hey, can we step outside? Sure, yeah, Mike, can we? You know, the always being aware of what is happening, what's going on. You know, I make this analogy and it's probably not a great one because I'm not a musician, but there's classical music, right, which is a very kind of rigid, random, regimented, you know what's coming in here, phase of of a symphony, listening to a symphony,...

...and then there's jazz, right, which is based on this, is riffing off it, right, but but underlying it is a structure. But then you go off of that structure, then you come back to that structure. Where is classical music? You don't really stay on the structure, right, you stay on that structure. So what they do is kind of jazz right. They have the structure and they know, they have an awareness of how we think we want to approach this, but we have to be aware of the situation and every call is different, so we're going to have to adjust what we're going to come back to what our basics are. Why? If that, if that makes sense, it does does. But they, you know, they are concerned about about I mean they're aware of safety. They say, you know, we don't have guns, so we don't expect sometimes seeing a gun escalates other people. Right, police officers come in and they have a service or the service weapon right there on that can. That can be, you know, an escalator. Some people they don't have that. They come in, they've got a badge that says who they are. They day carry radios, they have a notebook, they have a binder that has all this information that they can share with an individual. On the top of the on the front of that binder is safety first. The reminder to everybody right, that it is every everybody safety. Right, they were safety, the individuals safety. The call that I went on was arkd actually needed their help on something. They wanted them to help with the family that was a missing person and they thought they might be able to talk better with the sure except turns out. Turns out when they speak Spanish. She spent some time in Peru and so the family Spanish was their preferred language. She was able to make that easier. That was happenstance. Won't quite know that right. To other pick people had gone yeah, Rightish, right. So this was this was a very fortuitous situation. Tass she was able to help the officers. The person they were looking for was not there, but it was, it seemed to be from the distance that we observed. It seemed to be an a counter that went well on on everybody's part. The police were glad they were there. They got briefed by the officer before they went to the house, you know, and did the most they could do. So it was so in a couple weeks time I watched pick, which is the social worker sure approach to to public safety, and a couple weeks prior to that I watched the law enforcement version, which is crisis intervention track any where, which, if it works out the way, it's plan to all road patrol officers in the county, no matter what jurisdiction there, and will go through all them. Okay, forty hours of crisis interventions, okay, and that was that. I only got to see half of a day just because of my schedule. I'd like to be able to go back and, you know, just observe other parts of it. Sure the officers were, you know they were. They had some sort of classroom, you know, kind of chalkboard lessons. Yeah, so recognizing the signs and symptoms of someone in mental distress, what some of these things are. But the most of the week was spent listening to people who are living with various degrees of mental health challenges, families different, different, different types of not just mental health but develop mental they talked to families of people who have develop mental delays. They talk to families and people who live with autism. They got some information about dealing with the elderly. You know, all these kinds of things that that you can encounter. And so how can they D D escalators? I don't know, it's getting to be a Buzzword, it is. How can they how can they calm a situation or learn, understand that they don't have every answer when they go into a situation? Learn arning that there's something that was there was really powerful. They showed a video of a person who has epilepsy who was in a store, and so it's a video. So you know where this is going. Ye know the clerk, you know the guy. Hey, it's closing time. You got to go and the person's not responding. So the person calls the police, R I. Calls Nine hundred and one, because that's what they know, that, that's what they're saying. Everyone knows that number right, and they come in and it's like hey, buddy, what do you do? And it just it just shows a way now that I don't know. I hope no police that I would be encounter would act in that way. Hey Buddy, what are you doing? Move on, climb, you know, and they take the guy to the to the floor, and then it's well, no, this person is epilepsy, they are not going to be they may not respond in a certain way. You know, how else can this be done? Right by having that awareness of it. And I talked to a couple officers afterwards and they said, you know, they were these are things that they know, but everybody needs to be reminded. Yeah, yeah, you and I need to be reminded of things in our job. Absolutely you're going automatic pilot. You go from call...

...to call, to call to call to call, and take if can you take a breath in between and say what might I encounter? Yep, here and that's what I heard from the from the pick team is that on the way, they have more time to take a breath and think, okay, what might we encounter? We're not going to run off a script here right. We're going to we're going to go with the flow. So that's that's awesome. You know, I have to give the minority reporter a lot of credit. Your publication was one of the first that covered the in depth coverage of pick a fit and the crisis and training programs. So I have to give by minor reporter a lot of credit for that and I'm looking forward is to seeing and learning about your right alongs and what you were able to see and and and that's something cool. I think this is to experience it firsthand, because everyone's curious about how that is actually going to be enacted and everyone wants to know what it's like and just the stories that you've told right here. I'm I'm curious as all heck to see, you know, the read and learn more about that. So I guess what I'm trying to say is make sure you check out the minority reporter, and I'm going to say also is make sure you check out online, because I have a video of were as we were going to the call of video. Of they are talking. DRE and renee are talking about what is going through their mind. I asked in those questions. I said, so what we don't how do you prepare for this? What's your what's kind of the calculous that you're thinking of as you're writing to this? And and she's saying that they really don't want to have a script for this because they just don't know. Yep, they'll run through a few things and then she says, you know, if I anticipate everything, I'm going to get burned out. Right, she ratches herself up before she goes there, then she's going to be kind of in a heightened state perhaps. Right. Right. So it's not that they are just reactive, but they I think they lead with their ears, you know, not with their mouth. Right, said, yea, the first thing is to listen. Hey, what's going on, and then they will process it based on what they hear, not not the other way one. And I'm not saying all officers do that, but this is just a less prescriptive approach. They don't have pick team does not have eight hundred general orders for how to handle everything. Sure, sure, and the police do yeah, right, but but what you said is absolutely accurate, though it just there's a different feel of a person coming in with no with unarmed, no weapons and just kind of comes in with the Hay and I just want to sit down and talk to you so we can figure out what's going on approach, versus someone coming in with the radios and the guns and, you know, in the uniform, even though they may they may have no intention of doing anything bad when they walk in, you just you just feel a little different when you see someone who looks like that walk in, that has a more I don't know what the word I'm trying to look for, but you know, I'm trying to a dominating, almost feel like this person's coming here to take over the situation and get it under control, versus this person is trying to figure out what's going on in order to make everything better, even though both people are probably trying to accomplish the same thing. Just the visually, when you see someone come in who does not have that structured you know, the of the vest and the Taser and the gun and you all that stuff, you're like, oh, what's going on? When you see that guy come in, versus the person just with a with a note pad, saying hey, I just want to sit down and talk to this we could figure out what's going on. You know what I mean? Do you remember? You we're a little old than you, but not do you remember some of the old police shows where they would get out of the car and they put the Cap, the hat on? Yes, I do, right, Yep. And as you were saying that as they approach and what it looks like, I don't think I've seen outside of outside of say, an executive like a chief or something like that in a formal event wearing dress blues with the with you know, cap all right in the winner these the officers, they were in you know, like a ski cat and KNITCAP. Right, Yep, Nick Cap. Sometimes you'll see him on detail, you on the street corners, in a ball cap. So it just made me think of it. I have no idea if that is a way to kind of dress down a little bit not have them. Where has but I mean all ip shows, but I was growing up, the first thing they did was they put the Cap, I want to get out of the car. I don't think I've seen that. No, I think you're right. You know, I think that's funny you mention that, because I recently I dropped my I drop my kids off at school almost every morning because with covid the buses aren't really running the way they they want to have them running. So there's like a land of cars we all got to drop our kids off, and there's a there's some of the teachers and administrative staff and there's always a couple of police officers are also to kind of help the kids, you know, get get into the classroom, and there's always this one officer who I've become friends with now.

He's very laid back, very casual, like he's not button up all the way with the tie on. He's got like the you know, the tie off and the buttons are kind of loosened up. He's got sunglasses on these very and what you're saying is that curate? When you even though he's still be still wearing the uniform of an officer, he still has all the tools and an officer would have. He's very casual, very unbuttoned, sunglasses, kind of like hey, how's it going? Not like a move along, move along, you know what I mean. So that approachableness makes it easier to I think to deal with people you know you're trying to get your kids on, the mask on and the backpack on and get it just seems it's more common when someone like that's there then someone who you know is real serious and trying to rush people into the door. So I make a great point with with that statement. All right, we're going to go and take a break. We're going to get into our our topics here. Before we take that break, I want to make sure that I do. I do mention this real quick if you do want to check out the stories that petty we're just talking about. That's a very fascinating I think the whole Pi team thing, because I since you've brought it up many episodes ago now, I've always been kind of curious to see how how this is going to develop. So the continuation with the story in the fact that you have to write along and you're going to share this is awesome. So, just like Patty said, check it out online. Also go to minority to minority reporter dotnet. You'll have the option to subscribe there as well. You get the hard copy of the digital version, whichever one you prefer. Obviously, like you heard, Patty talk about. There's some great information in the minority reporter that you can use. Tells you about what's going on in your community and you can learn what's happening what about a lot of things. So definitely I advise you to go ahead and take advantage of subscribing. Also, if you have any questions, comments or suggestions for the minority reporter, they definitely take that as well. All you got to do it's been an email to editor at minority reporter DOTNET. Again, that's editor at minority reporter DOTNET. And of course, if you want to listen to any past episodes of inside the margins, you can go to inside the margins RADIOCOM. All of repistols are there also on iheartcom or wherever you get your podcast. All right, Patty, we got to dive into the whole vaccination thing and the whole restriction things. Is a lot to talk about. A Lot, a lot of new res You know, new rules as far as what you could do outside and what restaurants can do. We're talking all that way to come back. This is inside the margin. All right, welcome back to inside the margins. I am here with Patty. Okay, Patty, so as a lot of us have heard over the last few days, restrictions as far as your mask go have been lessened for those who have been vaccinated. So this is not for everyone and that's why, I know we were talking off air about this. It's and it's a little confusing because the announcement was made and I'll some people thought this was a rule for everyone, but it turns out this new ruling is only for those who are vaccinated. In my correct on this, I believe. So, fully vaccine. Right, right, so it's just a lot of confused. I mean, yeah, okay, when has there not been confusion? Right, yeah, absolutely correct. Yeah, Fifteen, sixteen months of this and I don't know that the day that there hasn't been confused every day. Right, getting of you don't need to wear a mask. To wear a mask to it's how long it stays on surfaces? Do you have to wash your you know, wipe down your grocery bags? Right, all that stuff. It's been incredibly confusing. Yeah, the CDC is talking about if you have been fully vaccinated. Okay, so that's your to that's the two doses that you've had, either three or four weeks apart, depending on what you've which one or the one Johnson and Johnson? Yep, well, it's back, but, yeah, we got hold for a while. So right, if you had that. So if you've been fully vaccinated, according to the CDC, you can gather indoors with fully vaccinated people without wearing a mask or staying six feet apart. Wow, wow, that's fully vaccinated people without wearing a mask. That's fake news. Both people. And again it takes after you've got your second dose. It Weekes or first of those. It can take two weeks to get full community sure. So don't get your second dose and then invite all your did. Don't immediately do it. Right, right, right, right, you know. Speaking of which, what was it last week? Late last week, the Monroe County Health Department issued an advisory. Apparently hit been a house party we're in which somebody tested pose. Yes, Yep, that is accurate. I don't Ye, here we go again. Right, you can gather conduct activities outdoors without wearing a mask, except in certain crowded settings and venues. All right, that's where I think...

...the confusion is coming up locally, with the festivals being canceled. Yes, good, very good point. So Monroe County Executive and the Health Commissioner late last week issued a joint statement that talked about that address that, as they said, overall previous week several local outdoor festivals and events have been forced to postpone because of what they say is the lack of clear and reasonable guidelines from New York state. The leaders say that they're disappointed with these developments, but they recognize that planning for outdoor festivals takes time. You know, people, you can't just throw these things together. Yeah, my words, actors, is can't just throw these things together a week and it's not fair to then cancel it at the last man right. So, going back to bellow and Mendoza, recent studies have shown an outdoor events and gatherings have low rates of transmission, especially when proper mitigation measures are in place and people have been vaccinated. But we just talked about right. They say it's crucial that our community find ways to gather together safely outdoors in the coming months. They are calling again Bella and Mendoza. They want Clomo and the state to issue what they call what they say would be updated, cleer guidance and guidelines specific to festivals we have Lilac right, is coming up. Yeah, limited over three weekends. Limited. I don't know how you limit people in a public park. I don't know how you do that, but I guess we're going to find out. Yep, you got Lilac, you got jazz festival. I Guess The New York State Fairs happening and there's a another one that I can't think over at the bet. So this is my question, Patty. I just want to see if you, if you're thinking, is similar to mine on this, and it's when I get your just going to pick your brain a little bit. So I think of like the State Fair or, I'm not sure a hundred percent with lie effect, festival or not. And I know the jazz fest is is relocated to I write right. So the this, the fair and the Jazz Festival, as far as I am aware, are ticketed events where you have to get a ticket in order to participate in those events. So you can they can regulate that more because there they have an idea of how many people are going to be in there. Where something like the park at festival or the cornhill festival, those are not ticketed events and those are casts kind of open to anyone who walks in there. So that's that's a little tougher to regulate and I wonder if that has anything to do with why some of the festivals like that would be canceled. But festivals like the jazz fest and and again I'm not sure if they're taketing for a lot of festival. I haven't. I didn't look into a hundred percent, but festival the fairest ticketing, obviously, but those those events that are ticketing where you're trying to have a limited capacity of people, you will know that you have that by the amount of ticket set yourself. That's true. But remember one of the big attractions for jazz fest was all the free events, if you got absolutely correct. So my question, and maybe they'll be more more coming on this, is they going to it? Is the whole thing going to be ticketed? You don't forget. Now you're in private now, you're on private proper right, exactly correct. So they could. So I don't know. I mean, you know, I used to wander downtown and wander around for an hour or two and listen to some of the music in the street and, you know, and go home. Yeah, you don't pay for anything that way. You just want you kind of walk around. It's free. You get, you know, some of the stuffs free at though. You could buy some food if you want and just go back to your business. And the same with when they had fringe fest. Some things were ticketed and some things were on parcelfy were, you know, these free events. So you make a good point. I don't know, I haven't read a whole lot about any kind of finalization for what jazzness is going to be, if there is going to be any sort of openness that you can just, yeah, come and wander around, if there's going to be street music like there was when it was downtown, or if it's all going to be in a venue so, as you point out, we can take it and we can count how many people are going to be there. Lilac Festival, the last I had looked was they were going to try to do some kind of regulation of how many people would certain yeah, and I don't it's a park. I don't know how you that. Yeah, because that's that's tough and that's what that's kind of what I was getting that too, patty the I could see you doing it with a jazz fash and you're right, because they're there at Urtr t's as private so they can, if they wanted to, kind of elimit that whole freewilling spirit that that you have in the city. You can definitely just end that and make everyone have a ticket to go to certain things fair. Obviously it's a ticket advent. You gotta buy a ticket to get in the fair. So that that covers that. Lolack festival is weird. So I know they're breaking it up and I know there are there's a mother's Day thing they're doing and I think there's a think there's a...

...food and beer thing that I again I don't know the whole thing about that, but I know they're doing certain things. I think to take part in those you have to have a ticket to do those. But the LIA festival itself, because a big part of the festival just walking around and looking at the flowers and interacting with people, right, so how do you regulate that or do you elimitate that part? I'm curious and that's why I'm not really sure what they plan on doing with this festival. Well, okay, so you know how everybody Google's it the last second, right yeah, yeah, so, so, I, so, i. You know, we're sitting here. Hey, white, yeah, we have computers. I Google admission for Lilac Festival. All right, so I go to Rochester Black Festival, Rochester events. Okay, I figured that's the first thing that comes off right, and you know, Oh, no, excuse me, the visit Rochester Black Festival, visit Rochester Cook on that and at the top Wylack Festival, may seven to nine, one, fourteen, sixteen, Twenty one, twenty three. And then it's I see nothing really about it's a quick here for a full schedule of activities, but on this particular site nothing is jumping out at me to tell me how they're handling this. HMM, yeah, that mean it's covid nineteen news and covid nineteen updates, but nothing that jumps out on this page that says here's how we're going to run the Lilac Festival. I can I'm lazy. I kind of want that. Yeah, I think. I think you don't want to to should have that right. I don't want to scroll to find this information right. It's too important for me to have to scroll and go, Oh, is it under covid nineteen? UPDATES. Okay, here's something here. Safety of our community. It's not clear. This is not helping people. If anybody from visit Rochester is listening to us, not helpful. Yeah, yeah, make it really unless unless I'm a total knucklehead, but I would think the first thing I clicked on for Lilac Festival and there were the dates, but there's no hyperlink that says and the video on it is the two hundred, two hundred and eighteen, the two thousand and eighteen pro just to Lilac Festival highlights two thousand and eighteen. You should be well, I care. Yeah, Pre Covid, you right, I think. Again, this is a great point. If you want to attend the festival, the first, the very first thing you're going to want to know is, okay, how do I do it? What's what's the rules? What? What? What do I have to do? Is You're a certain gait that have to go through, or are they going to check me for stuff, the temperature checks? What's going on? How is this being done? I think that's I think clicking through. I'm clicking through a three and four things here and enjoy the gardens. Enjoy tick. Okay, hang on, a second ticketed experience. Okay, that that just all right. Gardens Info, ticketed experiences. And then of course it goes away because the next thing you know what, let's move on. You can fuck should. I could take you can't see. You can't see Patty's face. I could see it. I could see PA. She's getting fusted like it's I've already had a bad tech day. I don't need something that I'm trying to get information on that gives me the run around. Yes, now, it's not helpful. People know it's got to be clear and and a lit like festivals coming up relatively soon. So so you? Yeah, it's a Saturday, Friday, Saturday. Yeah, so it so. You would think that you want to make some clarity there. Yeah, put again. That was my thought process was. Okay, let me interrupt you. Finally, the eighth click through. Here we go info, festival map and ground rules. So all right, please, please wear a mask. Okay, social distancing, no pets al out. We're seeing that before. Yeah, right, Bandanas are not allowed. Okay, there's a printal ESCO, polk and all that stuff is that's been going on for a while. Right again, I'm sooking for all. Right, back to our regular schedule with program you have to work, do you have to wear a masks because you're outdoorsywear mask. But again, this is one of these more crowded venues. People wear a mask from now until for very long. Yeah, you still now. I said to somebody the other day I don't know that I'd recognize somebody if they didn't have a mask on. Yeah, it's that I know what they look like. When you go into something and there's someone not worth the mask, you're like, what's going on? So yeah, so now you're right again. I know a lot of venues like buffalo bills and I believe rock nation or one of those musical companies. They're going to start doing events where, if you want to attend them, you have to be vaccinated and then...

...they will have gooll be at full capacity. I'm not sure if about the masking or not, but I do know that in order for you to be and those venues, you have to show proof of acting. It's not proof of test, it's proof of vaccination. So a lot of private I know we talked about this, I think our last episode. A lot of private entities are beginning to move in that direction where, if they're going to hold they want to they want to be able to. Did Not do twenty five percent, thirty percent, fifty percent. They want to do full capacity and in order to ensure safety of everyone, they think the best avenue to do is to make sure that they that everyone's going to be there has been vaccinated. So what do you think the point of all this is, Patti? Is it maybe to maybe persuade people to get vaccinated? Well, only let me too many windows open here. That there's some yeah, looking it's stuff. And just as in New York, thirty four point one percent of the eligible population has completed the vaccine series in the state. That's a third. So we're not even at fifty yet. Not even a fifty. We're not even close, not even close to fifty. Yea. Let's look at Monroe County. Let's see what we've got for one row. Hang on here. So Monroe County, half the population has at least one vaccine dose, and this was as of the weekend. Okay, so over the weekend's on the numbers. Contine, right, right, yeah, so fifty percent have at least one dose. So what's a big thing? And I know I was all over this early on. Was Demographic data. Lots of organizations in the county are trying to get more black and Hispanic. Huh, okay, it's working a little bit. So they have done a should it's working a lot with the Hispanic community. So they've done a lot of things that these pop up clinics in the city. They are common ground held. Has a speakers bureau that's going out to minority communities to talk with them. So as of what's was last week, as of the end of last week, the end of April, African Americans made up ten percent, almost eleven percent, of the vaccinated population, and that was after most of the time they had been eight percent. Okay, stuck on that. So it's working. Hispanic or Latino they're up to fifteen point four. Nice. Okay, excuse me, I lie that that's the whole state. I did not. It's okay, that's the state. Okay, so this. So let me go to Monroe County, which is having a bad technics. It's all right, but you're right. I know they're doing a bunch of things. Okay, has it really moved in the county? Eight point seven. It's still Spana Quatino is up a little bit, six point two percent. So no, still not. I was I got all excited there for a while to yeah, stuff, were still got work to it. WOR stacs working. This wasn't this great. But it's a you know, it's a slog at this point because people who have wanted the vaccines have already gotten there. You Go. That's know that those are the easy ones, but they call the earlier dooptors and now it's now it's it's a tougher it's a tougher sell for people. So yeah, so, so you you make an excellent point. So it's pretty easy to get a vaccine now. It's the it's not nowhere's nears difficult as it was before. When they first started vaccine people, it was really difficult. You have to be a certain age or you have to have certain Col morbidities and you know, only certain locations had a certain amount of vaccines at a certain time, so people were pretty much chasing the vaccines all over them, you know. But it's not like that now. Now it's relatively easy to get one. You can actually just now walk in and get one. So what's happened? Patty is we're at this point now where everyone who really wanted a vaccines pretty much gotten it. Everyone who doesn't want to get a vaccine, it's still old. They still don't want to. And you got these people that are kind of you know, I'm considering it, but I still I'm still kind of standing. I've taught, I talked to a people like this, Patty, people that are still waiting to see what happens to the people that have been vaccinated before they go get back sated. They want to see if there's some sort of and a few months there's going to be a number of people who have some sort of really bad side effects from it and and if that doesn't happen, then they'll go get their vaccine. So you get so so you got like these three categories. I'm not getting it. I wanted to get it, I got it and I'm just kind of...

...waiting to see what happens and if everything looks cool and a few months did I'll go get it. I've read, I've seen a couple headlines somewhere that some states want to do. You want to have, you know, giveaways, incentives to have people can be a vaccine. Well then you know. Well, what about me? I got my vaccine and I didn't get about you. Right, I don't know. I mean it's it's public health. I think it goes back to I mean, if you want to make extend something here, it's the erosion of society because we won't get vaccines to help our neighbors. Yeah, that's one way of looking at the yeah, everybody for themselves. And No, I'M NOT gonna help my neighbor and I'm not going to realize it by getting a vaccine, by protecting myself. I also protect, yes, my neighbors and everybody I got contact by wearing a mask. I protect myself and everybody I come in contactless. I don't know what we we that individualistic now that we're not gonna we're not going to do anything for the for the common good. Yeah, it's tough, I know. You know I feel. I think this thing's been politicized too much. I think I should have just been I think I should just state state of medical thing. Shouldn't that poltic should not really got involved with this. I do know, and I wanted to bring us up to real quick. It's going to see if I want to take a break, but I think we're just going to keep going. Okay, listeners, can you do it with I think it. See it, because it's still kind of relevant to what we're talking about. So, you know what, now, that's now to think about it. Let's take a break, we'll get we'll get the listeners regroup on what we just talked about. Go ahead and digest it, let it Barnate for a little bit and when we come back I want to talk about restaurants, patty restaurants, and bars and and casinos and movie theaters. They're loosening things up to but again, I think this is geared more towards those were vaccinated, and we'll talk about that little bit more as well. This is inside the margins. Will be right back. All right, Patty, welcome back to inside the margins. So when we last before the break, we were talking about vaccinations and how the CDC was easing some of the rulings and regards the masks and those rulings really affect. I'm not rulings, restrictions really affect those who are vacated. Those who are vaccinated get the opportunity to be indoors with others who are vacated and not have to wear a mask. And looks like they're loosening up some of the restrictions on restaurants and movie theaters and and bars now. One of the cool things about the bars. I know a lot of people were complaining about it, because there are some bars that are just bars right. A lot of bars that are out there are just bars and they had to kind of incorporate some sort of food in order to stay in business or have people actually go there, because there was a guideline saying that in order for you to have a drink, you had to be at a table, you have to be seated and you have to be eating while ordering a drink. So that rule has been pushed back. You no longer have to do that. You can just have a drink mouth you want to. Capacities or being loosened now so you can have actually more people in those establishments. You can stay can stay open a little bit later. I believe I don't have all the days in front of me, Patty, but I believe some time in May the the time, restrictions are going to be gone completely at some point. So, but I think also I saw some things were getting to full capacity. There might be some mandates on decinations at these establishers as well, where people some places are still talking about doing the you know, temperature checks and you know, you show that you were tested. But up the places to talk about a if you want to come in this establishment, you're gonna have to be that vaccinated. So again, I think, and I made some people who are listening who are not for getting vaccines may find what I'm going to say is perhaps in consider it, but this is, I guess, how I feel. This is a way to persuade you to get vaccinated if you want to go about doing things that you like doing, instead of like you, like you mentioned befoard, where they're saying we're going to give giveaways and stuff like that. I don't think that's necessary. I just think what's necessarious. Hey, do you want to go to your favorite bar? Do you want to go to your part restaurant? Do you want to go to the movies? Well, guess what, get vaccine and you can. If you don't, then you get to stay home and not do all these things. What's your thought process? I'm at. Well, I mean that's what Mendoza and bellow have been saying pretty much every week if we want to get back to normal, we need to get more people vaccinated. So, you know, I so so, but then an they were people. So I've been in was in the Ashter Zenica study that they have yet to get emergency use authorization. I have a card that...

...says I was vaccinated, but they don't have emergency use authorization yet. So where does that leave me? I can't get another vaccine. Wow, there's no study about if you've already been vaccinated, to get another vaccine right now, to double up like that. So to somebody like me who who took one for the team, but it went into this study, it's those great, I got this vaccine. Well, I don't know. I don't know what is taking as she Zenica so long to get to file their paperwork for emergency youth authorization. I was told it would be March. Is sold it would be April. Now we're in the May and I haven't I haven't heard anything about that. So in a way I feel that I should be able to flash my car to see I got vaccinated. If I was in Britain, this would work right, right, just because of the vagaries of our FDA. I mean these vaccines being used all all over the world except here. So there's lots of people like me. There's a couple, you know, couple tenzero people. Yeah, I'm me, but people, you know, cut me a break. Slack you. But there like the red wings, are going to have you. You have to take a test today. That, I think. It's a day of the game, right. Yes, if you want to go into there are places that are that are doing that that, if you have a negative test, you can, you can come in and do that. But if they're a minimal, a minimal capacity, you're going to sit far enough awake. Right, people, I agree with you on that. You you did. You were one of the first to get back to the because you did that trial study. I think that you should. You definitely should going a break because you are vaccinated. I mean doesn't matter what the FDA has appropriated as emergency, but you are vaccinated, so you should you should be fine. But yeah, you're right. I think you are right about the red wings. The Red Wings are still not man dating vaccinations in order to attend the Games. Yet the bills are, I know, if you count the shelf vaccinations for the red wings vaccination or a test, right, right. So you got to do some something's got to be the YEP bills as just straight up vaccination, test, test, won't matter. A few colleges, and I know I mentioned it before, now they're the escape me. I know. I think Cornell's one of them. I can't think of the other one, but there's a couple of University of roster you have are right, Yep. So those two colleges. Also, if you want to attend classes in class, I mean there's still obviously the if you're doing the online classes, then you can still do that, but if you want to actually go to the college and take classes, is again not test. Vaccination is going to be real a requirement. and I wonder as things open up more and more as we progress into the summer, right as we go we transition from spring into summer and you know, things open up more and more and if the numbers continue to go down, obviously our other companies going to make the vaccination mandatory instead of just the test, instead of the option of being tested, but also say hey, you know what, you can you need be vacctioning because as us, as we've stated a hundred times, with the testing. If you get tested today and you don't test positive for covid doesn't necessarily mean that you don't have it, because it's sometimes takes a little time for it to show up right. So the testing is not one of those things where I'm to I'm fine, you may actually not be fine in a few days you might be getting sick. But vaccinations are more especially if they're ninety five percent or whatever the number is, you're pretty well covered. If you're vaccinated well, you you could still develop, you could still contract it, but your your illness less. Later, say it will be milder, and it's and you will. You really don't have much risk at all of severe. Now then maybe some people who do get right, that's not on percent. That's a ninety five percent. Is Ninety five percent will not have severe rice or or hospitalization. Right. So, if so, if you're vaccinated and I'm vaccinated and we're in the same room together and I have a mild case of Covid the chances of you getting it at all or even it being terrible are very low. Having you might get it, but again, you might have the same small, mild symptoms as I get. More likely you're not going to get really, really sick from it. That's that's the protection of the vaccination rice. So that that's the safety. The vaccination is okay. Even if you get it, you there's a good chance that you're going to be okay. Yeah, yeah, and that's and but you know, there were people who don't trust vaccines and, as you said earlier, it's politicized. So this got to be a way to get we got to get to what, seventy percent, seven five percent some point. Yeah, I mean seventy is right. So, you know, fifty percent with one one dose. We got ways to go...

...right. Fifty percent. Yeah, that I had for some reason I thought it was it was more than that. But yeah, and when you told these are the numbers, I'd I'm not at and for you know, I'm not trying to paint anything grimmed. That's good that we're that we're at the point now where you can just walk in pretty much you get your vaccination. But that to me. Once that happened, I would think the flood gates would be open, right, everyone just be running and getting their vaccinations, but it's turns out that's not the case. People are pretty much have their feet in the sand. If they don't want them, they're they're they're not getting them, and I don't know how you convince people who just have decided that that's not what they want to do. Yeah, so, like I said before, the percent in the state is thirty four point one percent in the state that has completed vaccine series and in Monroe County. So we have about seven Hundredzero people in Monroe County and there are two hundred and eighty four thousand with their complete so that's quicker with it to tick to, you know, to eighty four and seven hundred thousand soak. So that thirty five hundred would be fifty percent. So we're probably about the same. It's probably about a third right in the county. Man. Yeah, least we still have a ways to go. And for s right, we need two thirds to get two thirds or seventy percent to get to herd immunity. So yeah, we got we got a ways to go. Yeah, and and and if people want to have some of their favorite events, like you know, a lot of people were sad when they heard the Park Avenue festivals was not happening, and that's one that I went to a lot, but it's happens to be around my birthday, so as a birthday thing, me and a few of my friends are go walk around and sample some of the foods and you see what's going on the park fs corn on festival too. I like I like that festival as well. Both of those not happening and I don't know because, as we were talking earlier about festivals that are not ticketing, you really can't control unally, kick control people in those festivals. People will just walk in and out throughout the entire festival, you know, because it's not really a ticketed or something that you have to buy to be there. You just kind of enjoying the scenery while you're walking around. If we want festivals, I have to come back. I think the best way to do that is that is to become back stated, because it's going to be hard for those festivals to function, those kind of festivals, the non ticketed festivals, it's going to be hard for those to function the way that we are used to if we don't have a certain level of protection within our community. No, sure, no, definitely agree with that. Yeah, so it's so of people who are saying, Oh man, I want to go to the park at festival were all man. I want to go to the corneal festival. I know there's a couple other ones that were canceled. You know, if you're a person who was not vaccinated and you're sad that these festivals are being canceled, the best way you can help those festivals come back is to be vaccinated and to encourage your family members and your friends to get become vaccinated. We're we made some some headlines, so headline, some headway. We're doing well. Our numbers are beginning to go down and obviously I think the vaccinations have a lot to do with that. So if we want to see the numbers going on even further, we have to continue on that, on that on that path. We can't just think that the thirty something percent of us I got vaccinated are going to be able to, you know, put the Shiel on everybody else. We can can't every day everyone. We need more people to actually partake in it as well. You know. No, that's that's true. So, and our numbers in the past few weeks have gone up here. Yes, so we've had more cases. So yeah, I mean we're a point where, again, I take to echo too much a county executive in the Health Commission. Is Their job to do. Is My job to ask questions. It's right either echo chamber. But right, you know, that's that's that's the line they trot out every week. If you want to get back to normal, get vaccinated, right, right, all right, yeah, well, this has been obviously the vaccine special today. So, but, but, but again, when its Whitish, summers coming, summer's coming soon, right. We're heading into may now, you know, we're early, early May now and then next is June. So summers right around the corner and all the cool things that we like to wing during the summer, fireworks right for Fourth of July and all that cool stuff. Who knows that that's going to be anywhere, anywhere near normal unless we, you know, take initiative and get the protections that we need so we can we can get that back. So that's there's that reason why I'm kind of, I guess, Hammer in this today is because, you know,...

...especially people like me who have children, young children, who are going to want to do things, and I know we're still a kind of a ways from getting children vaccinated. We're still working on that. Right. Sixteen, I believe now is the am I correct on that? It's sixteen is now the age where people can vaccinat vaccinated, but they're really young children, still not not able. But to protect them, to protect the children, US, the adults, need to be vaccinated so they don't have to worry about it as much and then we could take our children to do all these fun things. So summers around the corner. It's been a tough two thousand and twenty. Two Thousand and twenty one is still pretty tough and if you want to actually have some freedoms and to do things in actually have an enjoyable summer, we got it. We got it. We gotta do better with the vaccinations, especially and the black and Brown community. We have to get out there and there's no excuses anymore. You don't you don't have to get online, you don't have to call anybody, you don't have to travel to, you know, to collies away to go get your vaccination, or or miles and miles away if if you don't have the transpctation, you can walk into your local place. Now will your grocery stores. They're all doing them now. So there really is no excuse to get to not get back to the unless you just for some reason, just don't want to do it. Agreed. All right, Patty, where we are running on a time? Hey, I want to rem I want to remind everyone earlier when you were talking regards to riding along with a pick team. That's fat again. To me, that is absolutely fascinating and amazing and it's really cool that you have to do that, Patty, and for people to work it. Is Interested in seeing how that went. Make sure you go to minority reporter dotnet. You can. You can look at the video. You said there's a video of that upright. Yeah, you could check out the video. There's any stories in regards to that? You can check all that out on minority reporter dotnet. Also, you allow the opportunity to subscribe to the minority reporter. You get the digital version or the hard copy version. Again, I have been a describer for a little bit now to the minority reporter. I think it's a fantastic publication because you guys do cool stories like the pick team story that you that you're doing, one of the first ones to do that kind of stuff. So you get that kind of you get that kind of community based news and and you get to see the what the communities trying to do to make this, our city and our community, safer and better and more efficient. They provide those stories to you. So I think it's a great opportunity for you to to check out the minority reporter also. They want to hear from you. If you have any questions, comment suggestions, you can submit that to editor at minority reporter DOTNET. Again, that's editor at minority reporter DOTNET. And if you're just tuning into inside the margins right now, you missed it, but it's okay. If you go to inside the margins RADIOCOM, you can listen to any past episode of inside the margins that you want, including this one. And if you want to, I heartcom or where we get your podcast. All right, Patty, I think we should do this again next Monday. What do you think? We get my calendarn. You know about my advantment issues. Come on, you can't do this. Love you, man. Let me all right, for Patty Stinger I and that Wilson. This is inside the margins that we will see you next week. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins. We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom.

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