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Episode 10 · 2 years ago

Updates From the College at Brockport

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On Today's Show, Patti Singer brings us today's headline news and Patti and I talk more about Brockport Diversity. I also give some thoughts on the students quarantined at Brockport for precautionary measures.

Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. Hello and welcome to another edition of inside the margins, and I am your host, Matt Wilson. A lot going on in the news recently. Of course you have the Democratic primaries, all that stuff happening, Biden and Sanders, and also I just heard that the University of Brockpera, Brockward College, is a safe house for people who may have the coronavirus. I just heard that might be as something, but we'll dig into that maybe a little bit later on. At first let's go ahead and start off with some headline news from the minority reporters, Patty Singer. Hello, Patty Him Matt. So we'll get we'll get right into it. The PREK vote in the city school district passed after the school boards contentious debate. After more than an hour of robust debate, the Rochester City School District Board of Education voted to close schools forty four and fifty seven and use those buildings to bolster the district's pre kindergarten program the discussion and ultimately the five to to vote in favor of Superintendent Terry Day's proposal came after about a dozen parents and people associated with the community based organizations that partner with the district on Pre k spoke February twenty seven against the plan. Board members Vice President Cynthia Eliot and Commissioner Beatrice Lebron voted against the proposal. Monroe County reported five deaths from the flu in one February week. The Department of Public Health said that between February sixteenth and February twenty two it recorded five flu deaths. Those deaths may have occurred before them, but that's when they came to the attention of the health department. Through February twenty two there have been ten deaths to the flu this season, and the notable part about these recent deaths is they did occur in younger people. One was one thousand eighteen to forty nine and one was fifty to sixty four. Talking about respiratory illnesses, as of March seventh. One person remained involuntary quarantine with an unknown illness. Test done at Rochester General Hospital for the Covid nineteen virus with that person came back negative. Coronavirus scare has African students trapped in China as their home countries deny re entry. With about a hundred thousand people worldwide infected with the corona virus, there has been some difficulty for students returning to Africa. The World Health Organization named thirteen countries in Africa at greatest risk of acquiring the virus due to established direct links or frequent travel to and from China. However, few active cases had been reported through the first week in March in Sub Saharan Africa. Joe Biden swept South Carolina with black votes and he went into Super Tuesday with the momentum. He was the underdog. Biden was the underdog, trailing badly in the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire and Nevada primaries, but he has made a comeback. South Carolina's Jim Cleburne, who was also the House majority whip, had endorsed Biden days before the South Carolina primary, and Biden credited that with what he said, bringing me, Biden, back into the primary contention in Monroe County. The Monroe County Sheriff's Office. Promotions...

...show gains in diversity in that office. The Monroe County Sheriff's Office in late February held a promotion ceremony for people who had been promoted in the past year on February twenty five and there were four minorities among thirty members of the Department who were celebrated for advancement. And they were investigative investigator Marvin Patterson was promoted to court bureau chief, Sergeant Providence crowder to jail, lieutenant branded Bermudaz and tardist Taylor from deputies to jail corporals and Commander Jansen. McNair said that the number of minorities shows Sheriff Baxter's commitment to diversity and the for in one ceremony was the greatest number of minorities and documented in at least the past five years and even in people's memory. The Rochester Police Department will have its promotion ceremony March Twenty and captain Gabriel Pearson and Sergeant Christine Wilson are the minorities among sixteen supervisors who were being recognized. In opinion columns. George Payne tried a fasting diet. He writes that we don't realize how easy it is to eat and he went at one point for a hundred and twenty hours with very little to eat and trying to to lose weight and writing about the fasting experience. So that's a very interesting read for people who have tried and fasting diets are becoming popular. So George Payne will take you through his experience with that. And in other national news and editorials, the Mark Morial rites that it is difficult to say which is more harmful to the United States, the ongoing Russian cyber warfare or President Donald Trump's what he calls appalling response. Terrified that rushes efforts on his behalf delitomagizes his election and may do so again. Trump and his allies in Congress not only refused to take action to secure US elections, but have denigrated the findings of the intelligence community as a hoax. And those are the headlines for this week's mine. Already. Reporter on, Patty Singer. Thank you, Patty. I just kind of chuckled up that fasting story. I know the difficulties and struggles with lose the weight. I've tried everything. I'm now doing something at this working I know you work in training as well, so I know the general rule of thumb is as long as you in take less than you output, you will probably lose weight. Am I accurate by saying that? Well, you know, science the the latest word. What I say about science is the latest word, is not the last word. So things are things are changing around that. You know, metabolism their set point. We wish it. We wish it could be that simple, but what I tell people I work was it. Even if you don't see big changes on the scale, there are changes going on in you that are important. There has always been a debate about a night that was still form a colleague of mine. We used to talk about this a lot. Can you be fat and fit? She was up, she was a large woman. She would argue that yes, you can be and I would argue that yes, can you tell you? Yes, you can be you. You can be fat and fit to a point. You can be thin. You can be thin and unhealthy. You will sure smokers. Smokers tend to be thin. Would you say that that person is how no one could a city and know that's that's probably a little tough for them. So yeah, so it can be more difficult to be very heavy and fig it's just be more difficult. To me. You have voluments and things like that. But regular activity will make you healthier in the long run, I think, independent of an absolute justice number on the scale. The number says this, that's only that's just up a piece of the pleasure. No, I agree totally with you. I played football too and and when I was healthier than and I was more muscular, but I still was heavier than the Irish person that at that time I was pretty fits. So I so you're right. You could...

...be a person skill wise, that doesn't say you're healthy. If you look in the mirror you see someone's like duff define muscle, I'm pretty sure they're doing pretty good health. So don't maybe not. What did they take to get there? That's a very good point. If it's just hard work on the gym and Proper Diet, I would assume that that. But you're right there there's other avenues. All right. So a black port still in the news again. I kind of spoke earlier. I said it was a safe house, is actually being considered as a quarantine area for people with the coronavirus. But that's not what I want to talk about today. We have some more information about the diversity issues happening at Brockport and we're going to get into that. I want to take a short break first before I do that because I want to spend some time on that. Will we may have a clip that we're going to play, but we'll get into that after the break. Before we go to a break, I just want to remind you that you can find all the detailed information and in depth coverage of these stories on the minority reporter Dotnet, as well as on inside the margins radiocom and you can also email the minority porter as an editor at minority porter dotnet and also inside margins at gmailcom. And you can also find inside the margins not only on wxir but also on the IHEART radio APP and on the IHEART radio website as well. So we are now part of the IHEART radio network. So you can find us pretty much everywhere if you're looking hard enough. And this where you're supposed to que in. The cheers right. Yeah, and thank you for all your hard work as well, Patty, I definitely appreciate it. Has Been a pledge work with you. Thank you for inviting me to be part of this. All right, let's go ahead and take this quick break and when we come back we will talk more about this brockport diversity issue. It's Matt Wilson and Patty Singer and this is inside the margins. Will right back. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom. All right, welcome back to inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson, and I am here with patty singer from the minority reporter. So we were talking earlier about the headlines and Brockport once again is in a news. Actually it's remains in the news, has not left the news yet, and the chancellor visited with students at Brockport and discussed some of the issues and patty, you were there to cover that correct. Yes, I heard from Christina Johnson the sunny chancellor held a little news conference in which she did not she deflected two questions related directly to President Mcpherson. One of which was that. I asked was she here to make a change in any change in administration, and she said she is here to support Brockport. It was a follow up question. The another reporter said, well, that didn't sound like a ringing endorsement. Do you have faith in the president? And she said I am here to support Brockport as an institution. So very much, as we would say, stuck to the script. Yea On that. Did Not want to get involved in discussion. Somebody also asked about Dr Archie. She said, I am not here to talk about anyone individual, here to talk about the institution. I covered baseball for a long time, you did, and what this reminded me of. The manager can be a great manager. If the players can't get the runner home from second base, who goes and the and that you know what? I've been thinking about this for several days and I'm thinking, okay, this one way to look at it right. So you in baseball you fire the manager even though it's the players who can't get the runner home from second base. But then I'm thinking in a situation like with any kind of academic institution, I'm thinking. Well, okay, so where's the learning experience here? Don't you want people to stay and learn together? Because this is this...

...is what an institution of higher learning does. It teaches. It teaches us from our successes and it teaches us from our mistakes. So if you were to make a wholesale change, what are you teaching everybody else there? I don't want to be the chance for I don't want this decision, absolutely not. But you. But there's a there's a push pull here. I don't know enough about higher education to know who makes a good, quote unquote, manager. WHO Doesn't? There are things being put in place at Brockport. They have to have a chance to play out, I believe. But the same time, we have a teachable moment here. What's the lesson that we're going to take from it? Right, Nope, I totally agree with you that. But you know how, unfortunately, and these times where react first, think about the best strategy later, type atmosphere that we have here and when something is getting negative publicity, when something is getting a lot of media attention and there's a fear that it's the attention as getting is going to grow, sometimes in side they do a fire sale and they kind of get rid of anyone who may be implicated in what the problem is, and I think that may I don't want to say peas people because I don't think it's going to. But I think this isn't again, this is my opinion. This is these are not factual statements. This is just me saying what I think. I think because of the fact that Doctor Archie was let go and there was a lot of, you know, unrest about that, I think people want some sort of retaliation for that and I think I'm not saying the president's going anywhere, but I think that maybe the retaliation for some of the actions that people deemed were unethical that happened as far as letting go of Dr Archie, and someone has to pay the price for that. So I think that that's why they're they would be focusing on the president because she was she was, unfortunately, the voice that was heard after it happened. She was the one that was saying emails it out, she was the one that was making on the comments. So all the words that was with that that were coming out from the college, we're coming from her mouth. So she is the figurehead that maybe the person who has to take the fall for what's happened? I don't know if I don't know if that's what's going to happen, but that's kind of how I feel at this point. But the issue becomes we still don't know what connel identifying the personnel records are, you know, and I think even if, even if someone files feed of Information Act to find out, to get documentation, I still think that's going to be redacted because it relates to personnel, right and and we're not going to know. So does it fall the Dr Archie and his lawyers to release documents, to say what happened and to put out the the facts of this? So does somebody sort of take a fall? or I said something that we don't know? It could have been come completely justified, it could have not been. This is all the we don't have any of this information. So in a vacuum, right, nature of whors a vacuum? Yep, what comes in to fill that? Speculation, rumor, wishful thinking? Who knows? And that, you know, in a way as a disservice to everybody involved, I think, because we don't we don't have any facts and sadly, because we're living in a post truth world. This just sort of plays into into all of that, where you just don't know who and what you can believe right and that's a problem. You see it a lot happened on tellvision with people. Even if there's any thought that you may be in wrongdoing, sometimes people will just fire you before they even find out if you actually did anything wrong, and I think that, unfortunately, we leave a live in those kind of times. I don't think. I don't see a lot of reason and to fire anybody right now. I think. I think right now we should just try to figure out what is best for everyone to move forward. But people want reaction, people want heads the role at I don't think that's fair. Now again, I know I stated earlier that I have ties with brockport.

I will not deny that. I'm still there as a Grad student. I went there as Undergrad student. I have family members. My brother was a student there. So I have a lot of positive experiences with the school and I know we were talking earlier about some of the students who have issues. Maybe it's a location thing, you know, maybe it's from where we come from, where they come from. So maybe there's there's probably a lot to look at here. Is it? Is it the fact that that underrepresented students feel underrepresented throughout? When they look in their classrooms there aren't teachers who look like them, and that is a point that the chancellor brought up both in the news conference and with the students. She was in what's it called stem science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and this is this is a woman beyond Middle Age, right. So when she was doing that there was there weren't any women role mode and she would say that that I think just mentioned maybe they were two professors she had who were female. So she went through these programs not seeing anybody who looked like her, wondering if she could succeed. So in that sense she is empathetic with students who who don't see themselves in the front of the classroom. She's aware of that, that that if you see success, you may be successful. That's your role model. She is very aware that that students who are underrepresented need role model. She said that the diversity of students in the sunny system, the whole system, sixty four campuses, if you count just African, American and Latino, is thirty five percent. Hoping I remembering the number correctly, if you include Asians, it's forty two percent across the system. I believe she said the statistic was nine percent. As far as faculty, as far as the right instruction, I'm not sure she said professors or instruction. So there could be a depret difference, but yere's there's a disparity in in the numbers right right now. And I think I said that I even before we brought you on as part of inside the marriage, that I said it maybe our first or second show that I did. One thing that people look for when they go to an institution is people to represent them, people who are representative of what they could be or what they could attain to be. And when you go to the college, and I did ad meant this off and I I was a journalism and broadcast major and the majority of the professors that I came across there were female and male. There's a there's a nice mixture there. One African American professor that was in journalism and out of all the courses I took, he was the only African American professor that I encounter now. I did later on, before I graduate, I took an African American studies class and the African American studies professor was an African American, which makes sense, and if you take Africanamerican side classes you'll see more africanamerican professors in that department, but that's really where they lie. As far as overall as professors go, there's not a lot of African Americans. Now. It did not impact me per se because I feel that I got a very good education and I feel that I was able to relate very well to the professors that I learned from. So I never really had an issue. But if you're someone, again, this is a one a speculation front again. But if you're someone and you come from a more diverse area where you used to seeing maybe half of the teachers at your institution be of a different color of brown or black or whatever, and then you come to a smaller city like this and a lot of the teachers at higher education places don't necessarily meet that criteria, you may feel like there's something going on meant, when maybe there really isn't. I don't know. I'm not saying that is not. I'm messing there is. I'm just saying that this is a smaller area and I don't know why a lot...

...of African Americans don't seem to choose to go into the field of becoming a professor. I don't know if that's a true statement that just see. That's just kind of what I've seen in in a smaller so so we see this often. May Not be the greatest analogy in the world, but so in rural areas they are can be. You can see pig in New York state, just what I know from my days as a health reporter. In some of the rural areas in New York you will see a large amount of foreign born doctors. And so these are in. These are in there in rural predominantly white communities and you have Indian, predominantly Indian doctors who are in these areas and it can be difficult for them there. I went take it like okay, so why am I in? Is Very Rural, you know, southern Can New York, and all the doctors are Indian doctors. Well, what's up with that? Well, that's the visa system, right. So, if you because those areas are considered underrepresented by the federal government, if a doctor chooses to practice there, if a foreign born doctor chooses to practice there, they can, it can help their visa status. Right, they're al was called that because a j one visa. Sure, sure, if an American born physician wants to practice in that underserved area, they can get loan forgiveness. But you're you're not seeing a lot of white physicians born in this country choosing to go practice and in the southern tier, which is which is, you know, part of Apple Ja. For whatever reason it there's a value to the foreign born because they want to become a US citizen. Sure this is going to help them become a US citizen, right. Why? Why am I bringing this up? Well, how does this have anything to do with instructing at Brockport? Individuals who want professorships may not want to come to a small school. They may be elsewhere in the sunny system. So there's nine percent overall, eighty percent of at nine percent. Right. Could be downstack, could be in purchase, could be could be in other more metropolitan places. Brockport just may not be seen as that we were talking before and it I think it's something worth bringing up. Is that number of students if they come from downstate and then they come to Brockport, they're coming into really two different cultures. They coming into a rural culture from a from a metropolitan order the world, great cities. They're coming to a small rural campus. What's the culture involved in that? And you're also coming to a predominantly single race area. You coming to a predominantly white area of Monroe County. What if Brockport was superimposed in the city? Would it be right? There still may be issues with with there on in enough councilors. Somebody brought up the fact that, you know, white students are told about study, your broad opportunities in and and we, the minority students, aren't. There's still those issues to address. But do we also need to look at the locale and the expectations of people coming up or the preparation whatever and saying you're coming from a major metropolitan area where there is so much diversity R and you're coming to an area where there isn't? That's not right or wrong. That just is right. But how do we address that in in preparation? You may know it in theory, but what's that look like in practice? Yeah, no, and what you said is spot on. Not only is the university or the college at Brockport not in an area which is like New York City. It's not even an area like Rochester. It's a small, small area. So if you walk outside of the school area you're not going to...

...see a lot of yourself represented. So that right there can be detered to turn. But even so they said about a lot of people from downstade are still coming. You spoke with a student who actually kind of mentioned where he came from and and it being difficult because of where he came from. That's what got me thinking about this. And and there were several students. Are probably a two dozen students talking with the chance or afterwards and and one of the students said that, you know, this has been sort of generational at brockport. They will be there. They're told from alumni this is what to expect at Brockport. And yet students downstate, students downstay, students of color continue to come to brockport. So there has to be some attraction to the education they get, to the experience they get to to the environment there. Otherwise nobody, nobody would come. World would travel, don't go to Brockport and people wouldn't come. And yet students come and they are trying to make the campus better for the students behind them. It's that's it's you want to yeah, do so. Listen to Daniel men is and yeah, I was just going to say we have a clip. We're going to play that right now. Here's the clip. Still their frustrated and students. Let him on. Being Black in America match being black in a little small town where your administration isn't even on your side and you don't even come from a seven hours away. You know, it's a it's a tough environment to be able to drive him, but at the same time, you know, we're always we chose to go to sing about course, so we've got to make this the best environment for students moving forward. One of your colleagues, you mentioned that this was you would hear the same thing from alumni from years ago and and students. You said, you make the choice to continue to come here. What is it that that is a attractive to Brockport, even though you may hear that for a black or brown student it's not the greatest place in the world, but yet students still come. They finished four years here, they graduate. What is the attraction here? I mean I came here, I was an athlete, so that that automatically was an enticing aspect for me. But what what we do, what we do pride ourselves in a students is having student community. So the fact that all these students you've seen here we've been friends since since the moment we've joined the college and honestly, it's the student community that keeps US moving forward. All right, so that was Mr you men is right, Daniel manage yeah, thank you. Okay, so that was his tick on that and I think what you said there is it's pretty spot on to it. He's from seven hours away and it was a culture shock for him to come to an area like this and some of his close friends were also from that location. Is What is kind of what he was hinting to, and they bonded immediately and became friends since they've come. So their experience is very similar. Now, I think I was telling you earlier one of the people who talk pucked me into going to the college at Brockport was my brother, and my brother, just like I am, was from the city of Rochester. We moved out to the suburbs after we both started. I started middle school, he was already in high school and we moved out to the suburbs and then we ended up going, you know, to Brockport and he loved it there and he suggested that I go there and I went there and I had a really good time there too. So as a person who came from Rochester who goes to Brockport, I didn't really see a lot of issues myself personally with anything. I'd sure admit maybe I noticed that some of the professors didn't reflect how I looked, but I'm very happy and proud of the education that I got. I excelled, I was on honor rolls, Tean's list. I did I did very well at the school. I didn't have any issues, I didn't feel like I was held back and I had a lot of opportunities offered to me and I now I work professionally and broadcasting. So I did it. It worked out for me, work up for my brother who went, he wanted to be in acountant. Now he's a chief financial officer to a company out and out in New York City. So we went to the school, we got our education and we...

...achieved what we wanted to achieve. So we're we come from to Fernarias right. I come from upstate New York. I come from Rochester and mystery, Mr Human, is he comes from New York City, that area. He comes from an area that was already it extremely integrated, extremely diverse in comparison to this area. So his look when he comes three it's you said, it's generationally so the people that came before him told him there was going to be tough. And brockport, where the people came up for me, told me that's a great school, you should go there. I just found that kind of fascinating. Cres so, so I think so we have to go. I think there are I think context is important. So the individuals who are who became upset after Dr Archie was dismissed, not knowing why he was dismissed. This with somebody. They relied on this. This person is gone. They are there, they are upset about this and, as Danielm and is said, this is leading to a larger conversation, which is a good thing, about what what some of the institutions policies are. The institution is looking at those policies. This, this, this is good, this is this is what you know. Institution of higher learning, any education, should be. They should be these teachable moments and these learning situations and how will we better in the future than we were in the past? That's what education is all about. But I would I would like to think that there is also some context in in this in the sense of what do people, we all bring with us, what we expect when we arrive someplace? Right, what's it that makes sends me? That's what we know. Saying, if you'd stayed with me, God bless you. Right, I appreciate that one where she positively going with us. I don't want a Sep I don't. I don't want it. I'm not saying, Oh, they're from New York City, so they're expecting more, but I'm not. I'm not saying. I'm saying that that we have to look at the whole picture. Right here. They're bringing up some excellent points that need to be looked at. Their their context are experienced, their perceptions are are all of their reality. That is helping to change things at brockport. But I think it's interesting that maybe it is taking that outsider, that downstate person, to come to Rochester, brockport and say hey, Rochester, there are some issues here that need to be looked at and it's maybe the issues that Rochester didn't want to look at because we're you know, Matt, all respect your you grew up here, you used to it. This is the way it is. Some people are coming from another area saying, well, why does it happen to be this way? So that outside view is is important. Why is that outside view? Because maybe we've got individuals coming from an area where diversity was taken for granted. They come in to an area where it's it's it's still a struggle, and that maybe you know. Look at Mayor Warren says there are two Rochester. She has said that for a very long time. There are two Rochesters, and our friends from downstate who are part of our community now in Brockport are maybe they're saying, well, there are two. This is an example of the two rochesters. Why does it have to be this way? How can we fix this? And it's I don't know that being defensive about it is the way to get to make change. Nope, I was actually what was going to go there, and I'm glad you did, because that's true. If you think about even in the earlier days of when the Cilvil rights movement was happening back in the s. You know, the East, or the up here, was a lot different than the south. Right the north was different than the south. People who came from the north and saw things in the south and how bad they were probably with what this is crazy. You need to change this. They're probably where people in the south was like, it's not that bad. I guess you know what I mean there I'm sure people there who did not think it was as bad as it actually...

...was. And even though I don't think it's horrible, but there are probably some things that I'm missing because I am from here and I don't see as much as an issue as someone coming from the outside. So that's a good point. That that's why you do need people from the outside, because they bring up they bring a first set of eyes and also other experiences. Were things maybe at a way that it should be where they're at and they may be trying to bring that environment to a place where it's not at past every yet, but at the same time, you know, sometimes it's I know it's a tough it's a tough one to talk about. I think you have to have both perspectives. I think you've to have people from WHO are here also on in the talks with people aren't from here. Just this you can find a middle wrong and it's true, and then you go back to change and change is difficult. So the people who here are saying, well, why we have to change? Is kind of work for me while it doesn't work for other it's not working for for other people. And if we have if Rochester is losing population, as you look at some sign on the sense is what is going on with that? But we need to attract people here and we don't have three big companies. That would attract anybody you know who could meet that, who could fit that was going to do so much right and answer those resumes and and have different kinds of skill set. So so what are we going to do to bring people here, to make this more welcoming? Look at it's some individuals will not feel welcome where everybody. But but how will we going to do this so that we can attract the largest number of, you know, qualified people who can help our economy? And that's the other thing too. There's a big push on now to keep the college students here. A lot of small companies in this community that need. You know, it doesen employees here, six employees here, three here, two dozen here. Right. We need to keep our college students here. And if, if they're if they're not feeling welcome at Brockport, are they feeling welcome at Naz? Are they feeling welcome at Fisher are they feeling welcome in other places? Or are they going to want to go? I'm going to go. I want to go back home after it. I just didn't have four good years, or it seems like I wasn't. Nobody really wanted me to fit in here. So let's take a longing to review it. Look, it all comes down to money, right, so I'll come down to economics. This is going to be in our economic best interest, right, to address concerns and make positive changes where positive changes can be made. Right. NOPE, totally agree. I know there's going to be a lot more on this topic. I'm sure we have not heard the end of this and, by the way, want to just give you a shout out excellent coverage on this. By the way, if you want to see the full coverage and also the story that Patty did on this, you can go to the minority reporter dotnet. You can see the entire story and also you have options to subscribe if you are so inclined, if you like what you see, which I have subscribed, and I do look what I see, and that's why Patty's here also, as usual. Thank you so much, Patty. I always appreciate it. You're very welcome. Thank you for having me. Thank you all right. We're going to go ahead and take a quick break and we'll get some final thoughts after this. This is inside the margins. Will be right back. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom. Welcome back to inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson. All right, so I want to give some final thoughts in regards to Brockport, and this thought will be about the coronavirus because, as it has been made aware to pretty much everyone, there are some study of Brown students being housed at the brockport campus after they've been in Italy for a little bit of time. So this is the latest email that we received and regards to the students.

So this is what they said. Dear brockport community, last late last night, eighteen study abroad students arrived at Gordon Hall. They represent several sunny schools and had traveled to Italy to start their study abroad programs. As you all know, as a result of the spread of the novel coronavirus across the country soon he took immediate steps to bring them back to New York to either start precautionary quarantine at home or at a designate, designated and naked to cut secured dormitory at a campus. So they said. The reason why they chose Brockport was Gordon Hall was selected because it was one of the very few vacant dormitories across sunny with rooms that can accommodate students comfortably, with Wi fi, food services and large enough to allow them to be separated from one another during their precautionary quarantine period. And the last kind of things they said here is the New York State Department of Health to find the need for precautionary quarantine. But an individual has traveled to one of the impacted countries, which would be China, Iran, Japan, South Korea or Italy, where the coronavirus is prevalent, but who is not displaying any symptoms. The students in Gordon Hall are undergoing this precautionary measure as what any traveler returning from Italy. And while many of the study abroad students chose to undergo this precautionary quarantine, at home, civil did shoes a dormitory, and while here, our guests will be provided with every comfort of home, including plenty of food service, technology access and academic support to complete and continue their core studies. As part of the precautionary quarantine directions, each student will be separated from one another, monitored and screen daily by local and state health department staff, to include temperature checks, and will remain inside the dormitory at all times for the duration of the fourteen day period. And now the New York State Department of Health has issued guidance when testing for Covid nineteen and she'll be authorized by a health provider. Okay, so what that said? Can you imagine? Can you imagine being overseas? Right? You have been given the opportunity to study in a foreign country such as Italy. You're a young, young student. You don't have ties with family, really like children, or maybe not even serious relationships with girl or the girlfriend or boyfriend or anything like that. So you have this opportunity to go overseas to Italy, which is a beautiful country, and see all the scenery and the food and taking the culture and meet all the people there, and you are suddenly ripped away from that, forced back to the states and put into a room where you have to remain isolated from everyone for fourteen days, two full weeks. That is just a skid nightmare if you're a student. The reason why I say this is because a lot of people bring up oh, it's the coronavirus, we have to make sure that everyone's safe, and you know they're. Also, some people are upset because brought port is housing people who may potentially have the coronavirus. By the way, again, the students don't show any symptoms, none of them do, but this is...

...these are a precautionary measures just because they were in a country that as highly impacted by the coronavirus. So there's a lot of people complaining about why would you house these students here? You're going to make it, you know you're going to get up to here confected. Stop thinking about yourself for once and think about what just happened to these students. These students just had their dream realized. They went to go oversee. Some of these students probably never traveled anywhere before outside of their homes. Some of these tunets may have been from other locations and going to Brockport was the furthest that they have traveled. And now they get a chance to experience another culture in this country, something that a lot of people here will never have the opportunity to do. And because they were in the college, they were given this opportunity to visit some place like Italy, which is beautiful, and the food and the culture. It's a historic and then that you're not only are you ripped away from that, you are ripped away from your dream of studying abroad. You are now put into a room back and in Brockport and you are isolated from everybody for two weeks. Can you imagine that happening to you? So that's my final thought. Stop complaining about the students coming back and being housed in Brockport. Imagine if you were that student and you're not feeling sick at all. You don't have any symptoms. Your life was fine and because of this pandemic, you are now ripped away from what you wanted to do for maybe who knows, a long and now you're stuck at home, and you're not even such at your home. You're stuck in a dorm by yourself. But you can't do with no contact to physical contact with anybody else. Yes, you can go online and you can, you know, that kind of thing, talk on the phone, but you can't see people in real life for two weeks after you just came from the beautiful country of Italy. I would be devastating. All right, that's all we have time for today. Thank you so much for joining us for inside the margins. I want to of course, thank Patty Singer for doing an amazing job, as she always does, and we will be back next week with more topics that matter to you. This is inside the margins and this is Matt Wilson. Will see you next week. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom.

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