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Episode 15 · 1 year ago

Technology and African American Health Issues

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Marginalized groups can be the targetof negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show weseek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of theconflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice hurt.This is inside the margins with your host Matt, Wilson, Hello, wecome, to another editioninside the margins. I'm your host Matt Wilson, Wock Covid, nineteen cantiuse.To be the news, that's not going to change anytime soon, andfortunately. Soa lot of our news coverage today is going to be regards to cove nineteen.We always try to give you some of the bright things that are happening, butsometimes you know, covid is is what it is and there's not much. We can do toescape the, but speaking of bright things. Here we go from the MINORIY, but from the minorityporter it's any singer. Wot Todays have my news good afternoon: Pattyiwow'Mbord after Thatshinin a longtime we're going to start with some Nincovid clues, so a KENEDA INA one hundred thirty seven Pesemli districtas tile te complaint within the row, Countin district attorney and a NewYork State Board of elections, alleging election fraud related to HulthemanroCounty Board of elections handled the signature. Petitions of one of thisperson's opponents, so vanol orcy of gates, is claiming that the countyboard inappropriately corrected mistakes in the petition for earnest,Wagler or see claims that after he filed a general objection to flag, waspetition. The Democratic side of the cononty board of elections had thedocument we scan to show page nobers. That appeared to be missing on theoriginal PBF that ORC had been supplied. Newmath ADDS UP TO MORE R C SD deficit,Wols Superintendent, Terry Day, thescheduled to present a revised budget proposal to the Board of Education onApril fourteenth, and that revision will reflect an additional twenty fourmillion dollar deficit. The district has had has to close a gap of eightyfive million to have a balanced budget dates. Initial proposal for the Tsntytwenty one school year closed sixty one million dollars more cropped up whenthe state funding became flat. Also, the district had o spend two point:five million on meals for students who covid and Dade also wants toboard tostart e savings account of at least four million dollars and an opinion piece. KILALO MOIA whitetakes issue with an article that criticized the career developmental andoccupational studies, prudential issued by the Rochester City School district.She takes issue with an article that was, in the Democrat, an chronicle thatcriticized the criteria for that credential and she writes it as aparent. I wish to win my voice as a representative from the community. Irecommendthat RCSD enhance the impact of the CDO diploma options for futuregraduates. She goes on to explain her rationale and you can read that in thefull essay an minority report, Howa egl talks about the superntendenttout schools. Terry Day. He says anyone who is paying attention trulyrecognizes that Terry Dade has become a regular not only on Ba Wansbury's radioshow, but in the eight months he has been in Rochester. He has been a gueston Evan dossswxxi connections program as powpepl says more than many who havelived here for a lifetime...

...ego rightit. It is nothing short ofBaffwing, it's not mind, boggling, that gay can have these conversations andnever utter a single word about one of the district's oldest mostinceeded,pervasive volative and potentially explosive socio, economic, social,political and social, cultural issues and problems, and how you goes on towite that that is about structural racism in Covid News Rochester offers economic programs tohelp residents during covid nineteen pandemic me lovely warrant announced aseries of programs and services to support residents and businesses. Thoseinclude property, tax collection, relief, financial, coaching business,emergency grant and won deferros Heba Rochester and small businessadministration loans and a partnership with two hundred ad one lifeline. Cityresidents who have questions can call three one. One coronavirus is componing inequality andendangerus communities of color and national news. The inequality is alwaysmagnified in times of national hardship. Nowhere is this quear than incommunities of color, which have long endured anyqualities across theeconomic, social and civic systems, and now the factors are threatened to beexacerbated by the current corona virus of the novel Corner Virus. Covidnineteen homemade cor face masks are now a partof every spring wardrobe as more is known about covid nineteen and how itmoves from person to person more is being done to try to keep people safe.Whenro county is recommending that anytime, a person has to go outsidethat they were a cloth face, mask a homemade mask that can be done bymaking some folds in a large square piece of of fevrics, and that recommendation is for anyoneoutside and especially if you're outside, and you cannot be six feetfrom a person which is the recommended social distanceix space in our cover story is about how theCobin nineteen is reminiscent a little bit of thecommunity spirit that was needed in world war. Two in World War. Twoposters had Uncle Sam saying that I want you to go to a recruiting stationto join the army and if we had those posters now Uncle Sam will be saying. Iwant you to stay home health officials at Rochesters to a lot of systems.Richester resional help and you are medicine. Saat like staying home.People can sow the spread of the virus and that will give people on the flootlines a chance to be able to care for more people. Thank you, Patty. Thank you for today'sheadline news and, as always, you can find further detailed information. AmTe full link stories that you've heard for the hatline news on the minorityreporter Dot net as well. If you go to inside the Marges Radiocom, we alsohave a link there to the minority reporter. You canl see some pictures ofmyself and Patty as well on the site, so you'll see how beautiful we look inreal life and don't forget. We always do need your support. Soplease, please, if you do, have the means go ahead andsubscribe to the minority reporter as well, that I that's what I do. That'show I get my news, so I also suggest that you do the same, and you know it'salways good to stay ahead of. What's going on with local news and supportingour local media outlets as well, all right we're GOINTA go ahead, an ou takea quick break. Patty! You stay right there. When we come back, we will talkabout Rochger City, school district budget issues during this covidnineteen crisis and more right here on...

...inside the Marchiens woild be right.Then these are trying times. We all have worries. We worry about getting sick. We worry about our jobs and how to bethe bills. You worry about the health of ourchildren. We worry about our future. On top of all O, these bories feel isolated. Studies have shown that participatingin music and art to leave EP help. People manage stress and give people away to express their feelings. Creat evetments are about t focus,concentrating thos parts shifts a person's det away from the trauma thatthey had experienced and remember. New York state haspartened with the PRISIS textline and anolomous texine service available.Twenty four seven ext got: Five. That's got five to sevenfour one, seven, four one! If you are in the crisis, you need amediate help. Someone to talk to. Please call e hundred two seven: Three! That's twenty hundred Twand, seven,three, two fine! Five! This message has been brought to you by the New YorkState Office of Mental Hat. Welcome back to o inside the margins,I'm your host Matt Wilson, I'm here with Patty Singer so patty before we get into the main topic that I want to talk toyou about. Today we were kind of joking before we started the show about thetechnology aspect of of how we have to do these shows nowpeople on the radio. You can't see what's going on right now, but Pattyand I are able to see each other were using a program where we're using aWebcamera and and microphones and all that good stuff. So we can see and heareach other. So that's how we can kind of still feed off each other when we'retalking, but sometimes things don't always go the way you want to, and wehave to trouble shoot things on our own and I know pat you've gone through thesame thing as as ias as I have gone through as well. That's true, you know. When I work fora large news organization, we had an IT department and so ye there's a lot ofpeople who were listening with they working upwhen they work in the office. There was the it person in you, Col firs came,and you probably didn't pay a whole lot of attention to what they were doing,because you had something else to do while they werenked in your computingrunning. But all you could go rap, larch whatever it was well, we allshould have paid attention. It's kind of like you know, when youshould H. v pay attention back in school with Ha Chemistry class. Thephysics class of a math class should have paid attention on that ITN guy wasat my desk because n, I think that's just adding to thestress of the whole situation. Yeah, you know. If, if something breaks, whatdo I do I had to? I had to know before the Scoldur mad is hosting thezoo beating. All I have to do is kind of click in was great, and I e guessedof a lot of jomy. Well. Last week I had to host one with the Superintendent ofschools. He was graciously doing one onlines with all he media in town, so Ihad to figure out how to post the Zo reating. It got to the point where Isent terrydaten email and said I can't thingure this out Colmi, but at the last second, who knows thelittle grand ones in the machine must avecurred me and all of a sudden I sawthat my invitation have been set forty...

...five seconds later. He pops in all'sright with the world and no idea how that happened. I don't know that I canreplicate that that could have been my life. No idea, but it's again it Justis, it'sfrustrating for those of what I mean. I don't need to know how to fix my cop, Iput the key in the agnition or Fab or whatever it is these days. Don't get mestarted on how to start a car was no kay but anyway and and off you go and for a lot of us we have taken our computers in thesense. Forit push the button, it starts the programs work and if we wereFortenoug to work in an office we had somebody that we could call to come,get us out of trouble yeah. Maybe people listening wo go yeah wellwelcome to my world. This is or fr year. You know nice coming on lately, butagain this is a stressful time. There was woring Wol. I think this is anadded stress that at least in my world yeah yeah, no you're. Absolutely right. Ilisten. I will give you some credit, though we've been doing this now for afew weeks and you've actually gotten a lot better with the zoom stuff. So Iwill give you some I'll. Give you some some credit for that, so you're doing well and you're right.It's I work in a radio station and I'm used to work in the board, but yeahYoue. Absolutely right. I don't I'm not used to doing all these web meeting. Soit's it's even even for me, I'm like what so many different meetings and I'ltell you what the Zoom company they're, probably making a lot of money right Iond out there are. There, are other companies as well doing this. I wonderif they're publicly traded, you know how their stock is doing things along.No, that sort story today that Youow teledock is probably the stock is tellthe health is probablywy here to stay some of the things that that l thatwill change permanently. We wonder, will we now have more tell o healthvisits even for those of US living in Rochester who hav easy access to aphysician in person? Is this going to be? You know, we'r Gointo havetelehelth what is going to have changed, significanty significantly and perhapspermanently yeah technological scanpoint right. Ithink another time we were talking offline again and I think we weretalking about this kind of being the new some of this being the new norm fora lot of organizations, businesses and, I think,you're right. I think, after this a lot of different companies are going to see ways that you don't have toactually have people come into the office or even you know alot of times. People are even sens sent out or you get. You have to get on aplane to go somewhere to be a part of some sort of conference, and thistechnology was already there, but now that people are so used to it andpeople have done it so much. This may be more the norm, so why? Why spend somuch money? Sending someone hundreds of miles away when you can use dosomething like this? You know what I mean and he got. You know that that'san interesting point. I think Bhut for for businesses that are collaborate Ih,so my former employer an moved for one building to another building,fom an Ownerin doal leasing. So obviously, when you lase every squareinch questyou money right, so there was 't things were you know the desks weresmall Cuam in a little bit more whatever, and at one point there was a sensethat well Ou, you canwork anywhere, you can work out, go to a coffee, shop or Como, whatever youdon't have to be in the office and but there's still ere meetings to go to,and we need to be there for a marning meeting and the job. I have. I view itis very coloborative. We need to talk to people and it is very difficultbecause now, with Lik Carton, ployer we are putting out the website isn't asmuch of a challenge but putting out the print there's a lot of phone calls thathave to go back and forth. I can't just get up and walk to the next office andgo kno. Can you put that here or fix the Typo here right, our emailsthat have to go back and forth? So I...

...mean I hear you, but I'm wondering ifthere's a way to stream line the process go back to working in the office. Wecan get up, walk to the next person and say something and don't forget you knowso. Somebody asked Docimentoza. There was in thes conference he had onThursday and somebody he brought it up. Becoes I've been asked questions, butwe ever be able to shake hands again or hug. I Gat he doesn't have the answerfor that, but wouldn't that be horrible. If you can't go to your cowings officeand kind of lean over their shoulder and point to the same computer asthey're looking at what are we losing in the human touch from this that, if it goes it is, I would, I would argue it is a loss forsociety and humanity. I know you and I are on the same page here. I iall have always preferred human interaction. You knowin person than than on the web it when I'm in the radio sition even likewhen I when I first met you and you were actually in the radio stationsitting next to dom you know, that's you can't recreate that online. Youcan't there's something about being theire, live and having physicalinteraction. Actually looking someone right in their real eyes. You cannotrecreate that with with this online presence, so you're right will this. Will this probably beimplemented a lot more than it was before? I'm sure I will I'm almostcertain of that. That's going to be the case, but should we overdo itabsolutely not? We definitely should not lose touch on on the importance ofactual human interaction, because that's what makes us human after all,Weyou know and to one of the things you mentioned that so one of the things Ithink of is there. There is a lot of vacant office pace, downtown right,downto roches. Are they trying to fill a lot of that space? So what happens?If people, if people who ru companies go, we don't need. I don't need thismuch off the space because there we can working for, and I don't we don't sowhat happens to a lot of this commercial face? It's already vacant orpeople ere going to move into, and now they can't and we have again I'm going. No, I don't knowwhat's in Siplil building right now, you know so I don't know how much isfilled but multiply that by a few other buildings that are downtown or even soeven some office parks in the suburbs. What's going to happen to thatcommercial space, how much are we relying on that commercial space forfor revenue, Ringam? First, absolutely WESL the businesses that thos supportyou? No, if you're downtown during super building, you may go down to spotor job a jot for coffee IG, you wan to get some lunch. What's the ripple?EFFECTIV is not we're way too early. We still have to get through sure a peakof this and and and figure out anybody testing and vaccines and all this stuff.But I would imagine there are people thinking about the topics that you havebrought up. whate are the economic implications of working at home for ourcities and our infrastructure? No, these are. These are all excellent,Pinthe Mak and it's IE. It's like throwing a pebble into the water right,there's going to be ways made after that, pebbles being thrown so you're.Absolutely right. Everything affects everything. If you have less businessesdowntown, then you'll have less people around to go to those restaurants andsmall Le Little spots where they go and those businesses are affected as well,and then that that syccle continue so you're right. Everyone gets impacted bythat. So I don't I don't I personally and this again. These are my opinions.I personally do not think it's beneficial to mainstream virtual everything thatshould not be. What is what is the norm? Is there still should be a sense Thaf?We should have live offices with live people there. We should just have oneperson in one room talking to eighty people online exactly and Ay. Let'stake this a little bit. Let's go down the line a little bit. If who cleansthese offices Ifif, you have fewer...

...offices. TAT need to be cleaned who's that Gointin affect right.Exactly it's gonna Affect the people that we ae people over the the ceaningpeople. Everything right, I think that's those these are. These arepeople at some of sometimes the lower end of socioeconomic spectrum that havethese these maintenance type jobs, cleaning kinds of job. These are very,very important jobs. Absolutely that especially now we're noticing it whenplaces have to be sanitized and clean. Like that, you know your cleaningperson is that somebody to just be swapped off. That is a very importantperson, but if we have fewer shared paces, doing a feer people to cleaneright no that'. These are all good points that man it's this. I think it'sa great topic and it's something everyone you think about and you'rewhat you said is perfect to we're still kind of early on in this process. We'restill we have a lot more to go through before we even can figure out. What'sgoing to happen after for the ACTORMATH WE SUPPAL to get through it, but I'malmost certain, I'm almost certain that that there is going to be an impact andpeople are going to be different. It's going to it's going to be different,we're going to come out of this, where people are not going to be, maybe wantto be as physically interactive with one another.Some people still will some people it won't. It will not affect, but thereare some people that that Mawe're kind of on the verge of I don't know if Iwant to be around with people now. This may have been that button or that Nel nme coffin as you as you would say, to wherethe Ey. You know what, after thiswe're, just going to be virtual all the time, and I hope that that's not, Ihope that's not the case, but I know a few. A few busesswill probably see thatan alternative all right. We coal talk about this all day long and we probablywill probably- but I wanted to touch on this realquick to, because you wrote an interesting piece in the minorityreporter you would you wot about mayor, lovely Warren and how she was employingblack and Latino communities to heed the covid warning to stay home, becausein National News, a lot of the lower income and and and regions wherethere's a lot of African Americans have been hit hurder than everyone else. Now.It's not. It seems to not be the case yet in Monrol County, but we all know the fact that that'sprobably it's it's inevitable. It's going to happen and it kind of touches on what we already knew was theproblem, the whole economic difference between Cyou, know, Brac and class, andand and how you know. If you don't have the means to go to the hospital, you Dow, you don'thave money for insurance and all those things it makes it harder for you to betreated for not just covid, but for anything- and I think this is kind ofspotlighting that, because this this disease is in the news right now,what's what your thoughts on that yeah I mean Thir's there, the fancy term,for that is called the social determinante of health right and a wayto break. That down. Is that where you, where you, where you live, where youwork where you pray affect your health, so the certain neighborhoods you knowWi, this community has done so much good work, ower decade or more with L,Ledpain know trying to reduce the rate of LID poisoning and children of theleg coalition has done a lot of war on that, but that's an older housing stock,mostly in the inner city that has affected. So that's oneexample of how your health dispary can ffet can affect help when theyre countinreleases data on led poisoning the highest concentration of that is in thecity in n. The older housing stock in the city- it's not necessarily in some of the SULBURBS, particularlywantet to Pevneore House entap Ye wher. They never had anylid paint right atall, so yeah this is been there's. My guessis anybody listening to us has known...

...that there are health differences thatneed to not start up straight big, big, bold line, but these these differencesin economic status, ander you live in youraccess to healthcare, affect the CAN', affect the high rates of chronicdisease like heart, disease, diabetes and high blood pressure and somecancers in black and brow communities. No one listening to us right now is unaware that rise anymoiht. Theproblem is: How do you get the people who aet listening to us to go wow really just because we and think aboutit, not just go okay, wet kind of makes sense and move along, but really thinkabout these inequities and what what it costs. Somebody who doesn't think that thisaffects them, what it costs thet. Now I'm going to digress for a second,because this I love metaphors and analogies, and so I'm goingto give sortof an analogy to this. About a year and a half ago, the Sheriff Tomebaxter put out a news release what the OPIOIDepidemic was costing taxpayers, because he wen I'm SGONTA, put words inhis mouth now. He was kind of IING, tired of people not really paying attention to this. You know thefamilies were you now. PITN Avenye was but were the rest of us really payingattention o to the cost of this well, when it cost counting tax payers. Iwant to say five: six million dollars have in front of me, but that's sort ofwhat sicks in my head that may get people's attention right.It did for one newcycle. Now they have to do that again to saywhat what else s is it costing, but I bring that up because your health problem costs me money, so insurance is poolled risk. So everybody who has an insurancepolicy talk about socialism right even with commercial insurance right right.All of us who have excembised or MBP or signor at nervever, we're all payingfor each other's health care, so that should inspire me to not be dictatorialand WAG. My finger at you, you know, put down the dohnut go for a walk, butit should make me be aware that that we're all in this together, not just inCovid, we're all of Tus together throughout all of health ut all ofhealthcare is a collaborative and a cooperative yeah. So we were talking about this earlier andthat's actual. What you said is true and you're right. People who arelistening to this program are probably already aware of that issue, and we andthet goal is to reach the people who O, who are not aware. Th of that issue, socomat nineteen kind of puts this NAT and N on a national level of thespotlights on a national level. Now so people are begetting to become moreaware. The question is: When COVID ENDS DOES ANYTHING CHANGE? I would like to think so, but changing the inequitable system willcost money right. We are Covin is gone, a ver nice job bankrupting for what I mean. That's thecoance tooar, but you know it's like if covid is done, what having your carnal car conk out therefrigerator go on the Fridtz and the washing machine you know kill over all at once. Howdoes a family andle all O those payments? Rike? That's what Covid isdone to the economy. Everything is...

...broken down. All your appliances, no, and then you just find out that Yokids need braces all right, so everything his hit. It wants where's.The money got o come fom right because Tha hes going to cost money even goingin something, is Simpleis, not the right term basic astrying to provide health education in community so that you can try to Pushumore prevention cost money to do that. Where is themoney going to come from health? Insurers now are waving copays forcovid treatment, where's that money going to come fromthat Alpentures nonprivate health, insurers havereserves, probably come from that, but that's money. They can't spend Perhamlike aret yeah that ends organization, Ndo ealthpromotion. This changes everything yeah yeah, yeahyeah, it does so someone who is into fitness and andhealth and that aspect for then I know you ware and that's what thing ase todo. Do you think that this? Maybe becausethe whole fact of the matter is that covid impacts people with preexistingconditions harder than the average person? So if you have diabetes or ifyou have breathing issues or asthma or even if you're you know, even though beast sometimes that can besome issues that that that bring it on. So do you think that maybe this may help people try to live a healthierlifestyle, I'm not sure if it will, I'm just just throwing that out to see. Doyou think that this, maybe just because it makes you so vulnerableto the disease? Do you think? Maybe people think you know what? Maybe Ishould get my health in check and make sure I'm good in case oflat. Thishappens again know I'm a firm believer in in preventionand trying to control what you can't, because there is so much you can'tcontrol and to be as healthy as you can be for when you get sick, because thenyou minimize, hopefully you minimize the effect. You delay the onset and yeminimize the effect Ro Ioway, with the chronic condition tal about diveshihwood pessure, exact rightso prevention, like that, I think reallyworks can work well with the culinic disease you may have, you may begenetically predisploseer diabetes, get it at seventy nineand forty, I so haveyou know this thiry more years it could life and be as healthy as you can be.When you get your your chronic disease for something that's a contagiousdisease like this, I don't know not being a medical person, I don't know. I would like to thinkthat as the healthier you are the better a you want to handleanything that is emotional health as well as physical health sure. So I I tothink that, but, but I don't know ite, you havesomething that's contagious like this and that we don't know a lot of bout. I think in a couple years after a lot of research has been done,then we may know how much prevention a good preventive. If there's anythingspecific about prevention for Covin versus just the general, the healthier you are, the better ableyou want to withstand an kind of upset in your life yeah, that's kind ofthat's kind of where I was going with what the recovery process of, if you do, getit and and recovering and bouncing back from covid. It just seems that if you,if you, if you start off in a healthier place, chances again, Iam, certainlynon a metaclass or expert. So I want to make sure I mentioned that, but it itjust seems that you would have a better chance of bouncing back, I'm not saying quicker, but justbouncing back in general. If you are...

...already healthier Verson, if you are,if you're in a weakend or a state where you're not as healthy as you should be,you might have a diffent more difficult time recovering from it. It's it'salmost like and I know being age or something to do with, have something todo with help ut. But you know t I'm trying to say if you, if you fall down the stairs and your body isphysically fit and you you know, break a leg, you might recover from thatgenerally faster and quicker and better than if you were someone who is elderlyor you have bones that are not, as you know, as it's strong, if you breaksomething you might, your recovery might not go as well and that's kind ofwhat I'm getting an I'm a it'Syeah. That's true me me Gt me, give you quick story about that, so my cousin elderly cousin had she diedat tohundred and five di several years ago, but anyway she had taken Taichi inher s and she had a fall and was outside andbut because of her Taichi. She managed to somehow sort of collapsed gently into the Bushes O, I'remembering the story correctly and had only a broken art. So, yes, I want to be like my cousin Evewen,you know, but that's that's a sense of her beingvery proactive and that's one example that is anectotal talk about age. Withthis I just looked up something real quick, so the cony is starting to givemore data on people who who are stricken with Covid and dying fromColid, and so they did an age breakdown, and this is this day this old, becauseit was the first nineteen death. So we had several more sin: O Tue in thatfirst group of Statistics, ten of the desk fer between ages of eighty andninety nine wow. So there was noone younger than forty w one in thefourty TNY, fifty nine eight in the sixty to seventy nine and then ten inthe eight hunded and ninety nine. So that'searly data. I don't know what the age breakdown isin New York City right right and then I don't know again Al Let's complicated.Even more so you have a forty two yearold who dies. who was that fortytwo year old, a person who was in poverty such noaccess to Dotumentos? Are the Health CommissionerTalke the other day? Is News Conference about getting testing out to marginalizecommunities earlier to? If you can get these individuals who tend to see carlater anyway get to them earlier? Do you minimize the effects of this? Theseare all using. What we know from other diseases would seem to make sense, butyou don't know how this beast really acts: Yeah, Yep! Not that that's you know, there's so much still that wehave to learn about how this thing is answering. The questions that we raiseis going to be hard until we've, you know figured out exactly how this thingworks, and hopefully our scientists and our health experts are still you know,working as hard as they can, which I'm sure they are to get. This thing solved:Olt Patty as usual, always a bed and a bely oe information. Thank you so much. Thank you foroh. I appreciate you pennypatty singer again, like I said I want to make sure I reiterate, you can findall these stories that we talk about in detail for at least the headlinenews on the minority reporter Dat Nat, and if you want to ask any questions or if you have anysuggestions for stories in the future, you can send your emails to editor atminority reporter that net. Thank you,...

...as always, patty we're going to go andtake a quick break, and when we come back, we will play a clip featuring therock band periodic table of elephants from the Rock City showcase. Do you have a topic that you would likedoscussd on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Pleasesend your thoughts comments, Mor questions to inside margins at GMAILCOM,welcome back to inside the Marges Ihso for this last segment, as I have beendoing recently, we're going to go ahead and play a clip from the rock cityshowcase. This past week's guest was a bandcalled the periodic table of elephants, made up of Jason Shan and Greg ThreeGreat Guys, who are also very active in the Rochster city scene as far as foodand beverage as well- and I just want to go ahead and play a clip from that-show don't forget if you want to listen to the rock city, showcase podcast andcatch all the episodes when we did with Jimmy Hispan Junor and Richard mccullorand the rock stories first episode where it had Jo mcbean and everyoneelse in the Southweg area. You can listen to that on our website at insidethe margins, Radio Com, and it's also, wherever you can find podcast. So it'snot only on I hert, it's also an apple. I tunes. Also spotify Google play theTUNEIN APP anywhere wherever you can get your podcast it's available, so goahead and check it out. Ight here is a clip from the rock city showcase, and Iwill see you next week right here on inside the market have a good one. This is a rock city showcase. It's tough to deal with what we'redealing with and not at least try to crack a smilein and try to be inlightside o speaking of that about what we're going through. I know it's toughfor bands to get together and practice when you can't actually get togetherwhen social distancing is pretty much a thing, but at the same time I talked toanother musician as she had jazz artist a few weeks ago, and he said that hehas been able to write a bunch of songs because he has so much more free timeon his hands. Do you find that's true that it's a little tougher to gettogether and collaborate musically, but you still have the the freedom to stilldevelop different songs while you're, while you're sitting in I guess,isolation, Jason Yeah? I will I would say yes, Ispend a lot of time just noodling around and coming up with differentideas. I think I've got a handful more. I've also been spending a lot of time,working on two projects and learning some songs from Pearl Jam and I'mdrawing a blank. John bubut spending. A lot of time, learning, learning thosesongs and learning how they're put together and spending you know and notdoing kind of like campfire music, where you just know the basic courd,but really spending time in understanding how the songs are layered.So when you get into that, it takes a long time, but I've been spending moretime doing that than writing new stuff. So just kind of putting it aside forright now sure do you think yeah Goqtratas, I say youknow so our typical songwriting process is jake. J comes, he shows up and he's gotsort of the frame like the skeleton of t e songand he'll, show it to Shananna and then Sean and ill start filling in thepieces. You know you know filling in...

...all the gaps and maybe then we startlooking at you know the three of us kind of like structuring things alittle differently. Maybe this part needs to go a little longer, thispartis to be shorter. We need an additional part here and there so Imean, even though Jason comes forward with a lot of the structure in the beginning. Thesongs really come to life when the three of us get together, and so it'sbeen and we haven't even really attempted to write during this time of social isolation,and you know, maybe that's something that we get into the longer this goeson, but I know you know me personally, I'mactually I'm playing my instrument at home way more than I have been in thepast year, just not only because I have a little more time, even though I'mstill working, but it's it's kind of how I clear my head at the end of theday. You know so I'm not just glued to youknow crappy news all day long, it's nice to just dumplug from technology,but you know plug my basin instead yeah and actually I'm glad you saidthat, because I actually was that was kind of where I was heading and I guessI'll go to shine. Do you find that the using this time tofocus on music kind of helps you? I don't want to say, forget what'shappening because you can't forget what's happening, but just kind ofkeeps you clear kind of keeps you not in the you know in a dark place,because you can easily go into a dark place. Whith everything is happeningright now, music, by by far in away is my escaperight now I do not have my kid at home matter of fact, I saw an ad for adrummer for periodic table of elephants in my kit upon Ebay, so I'm Mot intereto an Nall that was about Justmia ing. I'm diving deep into music duringthe day generally have the TV off. I don't do anything but listen to a lotof music and, generally speaking, I draw M myinfluence from all my all. My drumkming is drawn frommusic that I listen to, so I'm exploring a little bit outside of whatI'm comfortable with and really trying to create and build a better library with which tocome at the new music that I'm sure that will get to writing as soon as weget together again, we are speaking with the band periodictable of elephant, so I I don't think the listeners know, but I am, I knowall three of you pretty well, we've all frequented that some of the socialgathering spots known as pubs around this city, we've all shared, probably a beverageor two or too many. Maybe who knows those are different stories to talkabout, but I know some some of us are sociallyawkwards of us are very social people. Do you miss that Doyou Mis, just beingable to go to the pub and hang out with h with your friends and- and you know,having a few pints in and singing that crowd or that group of people? Absolutely you know it's. You know. I think we'regoing to see so much permanent change come out of what's happening right now,and you know, we've been watching this crazy paradin shift over the lastfifteen years with social media and smartphones and devices and tablets andstuff like that, and it's almost like we've been preparing. You know for thissort of moment where we actually can't hang out in person that it's it'sforcing us to use technology to actually come together now, so you know we've the last couple weeks:We've had our own happy hours, you know the band and our closest friends andand family and we'll still have a few more drinks and perhaps maybe more thanusual, because none of us have to drive home. I anywhere now wee having thosehappy hours via zoom zoom rooms and...

...zoom meeting so doing those in our ownliving rooms, and you can ask my wifeshe'll aftest all the mtber bottlesin Y, my bedroom. So I hink, I told Yo sty the bedroom. I don't know that'sthat's a good question that ther' there'Sthato, the Liera got the biggerTV in the bedroom got like a decent size. TV and every once in a while illpop on Aflick, you know I don't like to watch a lot of regular t because againthat can just pound on you, so I'll find something that I want to. Watchlike like drunken history, for example, on of my thirite day, is a lot so goodlove that I'll pop on drunkin history. You know and they're drunk talkingabout history, so I feel like I have to join him and one thing es to another. There you go,which is basically any time we're all at the bar, we're tring talking abouthistory, so we're talking anyways and I'm not really greatth hwith like being around a lot of people, but I'm finding that I'm definitelymissing hanging out and having some you know, physical face to face sort ofconversations with my friends, my bandmaid say o Maddie, an miss you what's. This is all over. I'M gonna goon a hugging fest, but I'm hugging everybody. I see Oh yeah. I guaranteeyou all all form us well. Will tils win up on this Oliver. I promise you thatwe're talking to periodic table of elephants and yeah I was going to getto that too. I know some people are socialsocially awkward. I even my wifekind of is a little that she's not a huge crowd person. But, however, Ithink one positive thing that this thing is doing is even if you aresocially awkward, it does kind of make. You realize the importance offriendships, because even even if you're, not a huge group gathering typeof person, you still have your small circle that you like to hang out withyou like to see and when you don't see them, sometimes it does get you a little bit and also,if your mean you're crept in a room with a foreign three year old, all day,long and also draves, you insane, but you'll. Maybe l know about that.Sometime in your lives, but y I'm Tryn, I'm trapped in a housewith ten cats and one woN'TO. I'm doing, I think, I'm doing just fine on thosefrog, yeah how's it going with ten cats. It's going great g, so nothething. Iwant to talk to all you about, and I know we only got a a little bit of timeleft here. We all are also fans of the localestablishments that are in rochster places like Johns textmex places likethree heads brewing. Those kind of places are were all familiar with thosekind of places that we go to. I think it's one thing that peopleforget is that patrot being the a pitrot of thoseplaces, is important to the livelihood of those astalishment so going out.There is still supporting those establishments if, even if you're, juststopping by to get a growler or quick meal or something like that for takeout.I think that's important. I see that the two at least two of you at least Irepresenting three heads here: Do you guys still try to go ahead and do thatas well? Yeah, actually rede and I my wife, and we go out once a week, Tan get tacosfrom Johns, Texmex and refill our growlers and ars tock, a three heads. We know I mean I feel personally very much so I want to support ourfriends who are struggling through these times. I mean everybody's dealingwith this in such dramatic ways that, if there's anything that I can do smallas it may be to help out, you know I'm going to do that. So we try our best to support our friendsand the establishments and the businesses that they have, whilethey're tried to weather the storm...

Yeah I couldn't agree more. You know wethere's a there's a local coffee shop in Ironiquoi, where actually where we all live, called sips-and you know it's just the owner she's there from seven to eleven. Every dayshe moved her cash register right to the front door, so you can't even comeinside. People are standing about ten feet apart from each other out on thesidewalk and takes you order. She runs. She makes the coffee she comes back andyou know I think it, even though social distancing is so important and- and Ican't emphasize that enough- it's also important, I think- for someof us to feel some sense of normalcy. But while still being responsible toourselves and our community, so if you're going to support, you know abusiness support local because they're the ones that are going to be theaffected the most by this but make sure you're being responsible about it. Youknow make sure you're still really practicing social distancing and youknow infaction control. Do you have a topic that you would likediscussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Pleasesend your thoughts, comments, more questions to inside margins at gmailcom.

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