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Testing and Sports in Schools

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We talk sports in schools, the Person In Crisis Team, and testing in schools.

Inside the margins is sponsored by salvators. I just took a DNA Tus. Turns out I'm a hundred percent Rochester. That's right, I got seven hundred thousand matches. We are all COOGIE's. I can't wait to shook your hand. Oh wait, I can't, but I can feed you. salvators famous full and you touchless delivery of those the come. Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. And Hello and welcome to another edition of inside the margins. I am your host, Matt Wilson. We have a lot to talk about today. All things happening with the sunny schools, with the Rochester City schools. May A lovely Warren as also announced the formation of a team to help out individuals who may be going through a mental episode. There's a lot to cover and before we do that, too, things I want to say before I bring in Patty for our headline news. Number One, I want to say rest in peace to a legendary home run slugger and baseball icon, Hank Aaron. He definitely meant a lot to sports and also in the African American community. He is definitely pre steroid errors. All his numbers are pretty on point. No, no perceivable drug influences there. So He's definitely on a lot of people's mind. So arresting peace to Hank Aaron. Also, the legendary broadcasting icon Larry King succumbed to illnesses cause from the chronic bout from the coronavirus. He was the cause for a lot of people, including myself, to even consider a career in broadcasting. He had a fantastic interviewing style and he interviewed so many different people. So He's definitely as definitely something that the broadcasting community is going to feel. The legendary Larry King also passed away. So he just wanted to go ahead and acknowledge Tis as well. Okay, let's go ahead and bring some positivity into our lives with the minority reporters, patty singer, Hello Patty, and good afternoon to you. Hey, Matt, nice to be here. Thanks for that intro positive. Wow, you're always a positive influence to me. Yeah, times reporters are are sort of, you know, the looking for the negative and things. So thank you for saying I'm a positive person to start the you know, on this show you are a positive influence to me, and also all the lists. Thank you. Thank you. All right. You said we have a lot to talk about, so we will go over that headlines The things that you can read more about in this week's minority reporter. Will start with some covid news. The covid vaccine task force is focusing on motivation while the region waits for supply and when that vaccine supply does arrive, Monroe County is seeking volunteers for the COVID nineteen vaccine sites. The Monroe County Sheriff's Office has introduced its reform and reinvention plan at was proposed to the Monroe County legislature. Will Jackson is retiring as chief of the Rochester Fire Department and the interim chief will be Philip Hernandez Junior, the first Latino in that position. Or cover story was about Amazon and the Warehouse Builder Seeking Tax Breaks for the proposed facility in gates. What does that mean for Job Equity? The Rochester City School district sees a rise in the four year graduation rate in an opinion Michael Vaughan. Something to think about is structural racism, and Covid nineteen n talks about the effect of the orange zones on black and brown businesses. That thank you so much, Patti. And, as always, you want to get the full versions of those headlines that petty just talked about, you can visit the minority reporter dotnet. They will have the full versions of those headlines. You will also have the option to subscribe to the minority reporter as well. I myself have a subscription to the minority reporter because I believe in supporting local journalism and also they tell the stories that are important to me and my community. So if you want to hear those stories, it's definitely a good idea to go ahead and subscribe to the minority reporter. Also, we they always want to hear your questions, your comments, any show or any ideas for the paper. Certainly they will take that in consideration. All you have to do is submit an email to editor at minority reporter DOTNET and...

...they will look over your suggestions in your comments. Also, you can go to our website, which is inside the margins RADIOCOM, if you want to hear any episodes of inside the margins that you may have missed. You can also send questions to us as well. And also, don't forget, all episodes of inside the margins are available not only on our website, at inside the margins Radiarcom, but on iheartcom and wherever you get your podcast. All right, we are going to take a quick break. When we come back we will talk about a bunch of stories, including schools and covid and so much more. We had a lot talk about today. This is inside the margins. Will be right back. All right, welcome back to inside the marriages. I'm here with Patty. All right, patty, we have a ton of stories to cover today. Come of topics that we want to cover, but let's go ahead and let's go jump right into it. The first thing that I wanted to talk about, and I know we mentioned this before, in regards to the sports at the high school level, and a lot of the sports, especially the ones that that had a lot of contact involved, were shut down due to the coronavirus. But it looks like the governor has opened that up and loosen those restrictions and now pretty much all sports are now going to be available for students to participate in. I believe that's that just happened, I believe in the last day or two. So I just want to make sure that I'm getting them formish Courtney. So this is this is the majority of sports in schools, correct? I you know what. I'm guessing that that's what it is. So so I'm going to read the statement, a joint statement from Monroe County Executive Adam Bellow and the Public Health Commissioner, okay, Dr Michael Mendoza. This was issued on Friday. So over the past several weeks we have heard from many parents, families and student athletes regarding a return of, quote, Higher Risk School Sports. This is an issue we've been continuously advocating for through the finger lakes regional control room to ensure our young athletes have an opportunity to compete safely. Aside the finger lakes regional control room, is this a conglomeration of all all parties that has been reporting on what's happening in the finger lakes to the governor as far as numbers and and things like that. Okay, now now back to our back to our message here. Okay, there have been many meetings with the Monroe County school super intent as this planning requires public health and safety we made at the forefront. Our school districts have done an incredible job mitigating the spread of covid nineteen. We support the governor's proposal to allow these activities to resume on February first and we support allowing these activities to begin in Monroe County. We will be again meeting with area school leadership in the coming days to develop plans so that our young people in Monroe County can participate. We know how hard the last ten months have been for our community, particularly our students and high school student athletes. The return of high school sports will give them a sense of normalcy and an opportunity to compete with their friends and classmates. End of statement. I call you know what. Yes, all right, so, I know we have talked about this before, that sports especially, not not gymnastics. That's a little different. But sports are an elective. Not everyone participates in sports. Not everyone joins the football team, in the basketball team. That's something that you choose to do on your own and all the other electives and you have to try out and make it right, right, right. So it's not it's they don't take everyone right right. So this is not something that's now going to be opened up for everyone as just for a select few of athletes who were able to actually make the team that are going to be allowed to participate in these extracurricular activity of activities at the school. As far as I am aware of, I do have young children in school, Lost Love, a teenager in school. There is nothing. Things like band and chess club and those kind of clubs are still not going on at the schools right now. So I guess my question to you, and I'm sure you you at probably ask the same question. If they're going to allow these sports to happen, why wouldn't they not allow these other clubs to be active as well well? Honey, you should ask so. At four or six on Friday after this announcement came out, at quarter to four, I said a note to the Communications Department at the county hi. What is the policy for school clubs, for school theater groups and orchestras and math and debate teams. Are these allowed to meet with any special requirements? Not having kids in the city, not being in person? This is not something I know a lot about. What if athletes can play, I would think the Chess Club in the drama club also should. Thanks. As the clock ticks, I...

...get to think. And I sent it it form six on a Friday. But the point is the email from bellow and Mendoza came at three hundred and forty three on Friday, because not, like they said, it at eight o'clock in the morning, and here I am at midnight on Friday afternoon. Folks were still working. Yeah, right, to respond to this. What about intramurals, Eng Murals playing? So I mean, no, I'm sorry, I am a listen, I spent the first half of my career covering sports. Yeah, that's that. Half, poet, my life writing about sports, because I started covering sports I was sixteen years old. Left Sports in my mid thirties. Right, so half my life was spent covering sports and some locker rooms involved. Like playing sports myself. I'm a big sports fan. No, this is wrong. You are to me. You are sending a message that, once again, athletes are special and you know what? No, no, not. They are no more special than your number one chess board person, right or whatever else, whoever has, whoever does the procs in the theater for the theater production, is no one. No one is more important than somebody else. Sports are not more important. And so no, you either bring back all extracurriculars or you bring back none. I A hundred percent agree with you. I'm not. So this is what I'm saying, because I'm fully import with you. I'm not saying don't, but I'm saying, if you're going to, that should be broad, that should be okay. We're bringing back all everything, because here's here's my thing, and I've always thought this too, and I played sports and I love sports and I still watch sports and I'd so I'm with you, Patty. I play sports for many, many years and I still watch sports. But there's less contact and band or and the chess club or in all even in most theater productions, there's less actual physical contact then, let's say a football game or a basketball game. You're not really touching each other when you're, you know, in band, you're kind of just playing your instrument. So if you're going to allow these and wrestling is one of them, to which obviously there's you can't wrestle without actually touching somebody. There's no it's impossible to do that. Right. So if you're going to bring back the sports where you have full on contact with people, why can't you bring back these groups or these clubs or these individual things that that that people were doing, where there's a lot less contact? I don't understand that at all. I don't understand and you you are absolutely right, that's exactly what it's doing. Gets saying we are prior we are prioritizing sports over everything else, and that is definitely, to me, a wrong message of sign because you're making other people feel less important. Right. So if your kids are involved or whatever activity they're and they're not doing their activity right school, but it's they're not able to do whatever actual cred you are after school things that your kids were were involved in, right, right. Yeah, my teenage daughter was involved the dance, all right, and there is no dance right now. They can't, they can't do any dance anything right now. So that's that's accurate. Okay, so the other night I watched their college hockey game. I was flipping through the channels and the game came on. I like college hockey and I was watching it. It was interesting to me because it appeared that the lines been dropping the puck had some sort of like up Bandana they would pull up when they drop the pot. They showed the RAF they got a play under review when he did not appear to have anything around his neck to pull up wherever. So I wasn't quite sure and I don't watch much college has that opportunity to sure watch this. So I was seeing what was going on. No fans in this and the coaches had it was interesting because the coach, one coach after the game was he won. He was upset with the rap and he's kind of the things on and off the hooks, yelling at the rap and the coaches were talking to players. Sometimes they had the thing down to share, that thing up understanding and that thing up. But okay, this is this is the University of Michigan and Notre Dame hockey. Right. There's a lot of money involved in Division One College Sports. I can sort of understand the pressures in division one college sports. It was interesting because one of the players they were talking to their interviewing initially had was going to go to Harvard and apparently when the Ivy League's canceled their schedule, this guy became colleges version of a free agent and went to the University of Michigan. So there's inconsistencies even where there's money to be made from sports, but Michigan, Notre Dame, big money in Division One. Seriously, Penfield, and...

I'm just bringing you up in a as an example, Pentfield, Pittsburgh, that Edda. What's the what's the money being made on this versus the message being sent to other kids there? Now, are you going to I don't are you going to all out to your leading? I don't know. I haven't seen that at that that maybe somebody listening maybe going. Yes, cheerleading is on the list. Where do you where do you stop? I mean you bring the band, you bring the band back. Football supposed to start in March. You have spring football, all right, you bring the band back in March to play the football games. I mean what is the most important thing? Health and safety. Health includes mental health. Believe me, I understand that. And these are going to be some of the questions I hope to ask this week and in the briefing with mental health issues and bringing back, you know, intramurals in clubs. I get that, but I think there has to be other ways these to address the mental health toll of Covid and saying we know how hard the last ten months have been for our community, particularly particularly our students in our high school student athletes. The return of high school sports and give them a sense of normalcy. For some people they'll go back to some sense of normalcy. For other kids they're still they're still waiting for their no, I just think this sends the wrong message that once again, athletes are special and athletes at special treatment. All right, I agree, I resent. I have I have friends cross the spectrum. I friends who are heavily into sports, big, big time sports fans. I friends who don't watch sports at all, who don't participation sport, don't participate in sports and have nothing to do with sports. So there are also kids like that in school. There are some kids who just don't have any interest in sports. That's not where their interests a lie. So you what you're saying. It coincides with what I agree with as well. It's the fact that you're not making anything normal for them if they weren't going to watch football games, if they weren't going to try out for football or basketball or wrestling teams in any ways, if they weren't showing up to watch those kind of things, this is not bringing anything normal back to them. They're still stuck not doing what they like doing and they're still stuck, you know, isolated from their love of whatever they love to do it at school. So yes, for the select few, and and you're right, I understand it too. I'm not wording. I don't think anyone's an idiot. I think everyone understands that sports equals money almost at any level. And I and I have no idea how much income you get from the sports at the at the high school level, I don't know. But I do know that sports usually as the biggest revenue grabber for the majority of anything right all the way to the pro level. That's it's all about money. And I know you can, you sell tickets and whatever. It's so I get that. But again, you got to be fair to everybody. It's you. You're pretty much putting people who aren't involved with sports in a corner and telling them that you know what, what you like to do doesn't matter as much, but these people like to do so. We're going to prioritize sports over everything else. And you, if you were, if you wanted to be part of the chess clever, the debate team with the math, whatever it is that they do, you're gonna have to wait till we figure out if you can do it safely. But you know full contact wrestling is somehow safe, don't I guess I'll understand that well. So one of the things is you talking I'm thinking about and I don't know this. Somebody may know more about this than I do. A lot of people know more about this. My question is, what is the pressure? Okay, over the past several quoting from the joint statement, over the past several weeks, we have heard from many parents, families and student athletes we got to return to high risk school sports. What is the instead to impetus pressure, whatever words, it's escaping me in a Monday from scholarships, and I don't know they give you. Do they give scholarships for debaters in college? I don't know. I'm just what they call a clubhouse lawyer. I don't, I don't. I don't know that, but my guess is there are kids who were d I'm sure there were done male and female athletes in section five in Monroe County, in this area who were concerned about where they're going. And that's not just seniors. That's also sophomores and juniors who start to get looked at for this process. What role does the pressure of college sports and families who say my kids going to...

...go done and my kids going to go pro so they can't miss this season look at? We were stories about kids playing travel hockey, going out of state, right because the parent thinks their kids going to go do want or play in the NHL. So to heck with covid protocols, we're going to be on a travel team and we're going to go out of state so my kid can get ice time. Right. That's this, I think, going how upside down we are with sports. I think that's a very valid point. To you. To answer your question, my initial stint in college I was I went as a theater major and they actually you could get a scholarship for theater. So some of those clubs do allow half scholarship programs, you know, for that. However, obviously athletes are heavily scouted people. The people don't really scout you for a theater scholarship or you kind of supply for it and all that stuff, but your people show up to games and scout you and try to and try to lure you into colleges if you're good enough students. So there's more money when it comes to scholarships and sports, and you know they want to give like maybe one or two scholarships for like theater and math or chest or debate or whatever, but they give, you know, big time scholarships for sports and then they're heavily looked at. So I think that's a very interesting point. I think that's actually a probably very valid to like you know that that you know some kid who's like I'm supposed to be the next big thing and I was being looked at. This kind of messings up. So there's there may be a lot of pressure on that as well. That's a very good point. I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised. You kidding me? You mean you mean if you play Hamlet, they don't. They don't look at everybody like done theater Promi your hamlet was better than let. No, that was a camlet should be competing against each other's up. You know definitely who's mcbeth. You know WHO's lady Macbeth. WHO's rout out damage odds is more motive than somebody else's consould competitive by do it. I was a fellow, by the way it see there's a clear things up. All right, we're gonna we're going to take a quick break. Where to come back and talk about some more things. I want to talk about this. This was I know this was in the last week's minority reporter, but I want to talk about this. This thing that might that Mary will be warned now. So the twenty one regards to people in crisis and I want to talk about that real quick we all also want to go over the covid numbers and some other things that they announced about the schools as well. We'll get into all that stuff when we come back. Yes, one more quick break and then we'll finish out the program this is inside the margins. We will be right back inside the margins. It's sponsored by salvators. For more information on foods offered and locations near you, visit Salvatorscom. All right, welcome back to you inside the margins and this is Matt. I'm here with Patty. So, Patty, you did a great story on I believe it was last week's minority reporter. And regards to the person and crisis team, now, Mary Lovely Warren announced this on the twenty one, I believe. I know this is something that was in the top and talks for a while happening, but I guess that's now official. Is that correct? It is. It's a pilot program and will run until June. They're they've yet to release the plan to the public. So you think, what is this based on? Can I read what what this is all about? No, there's not. There's it's not yet up on a website when you can type into your Rochester person in crisis team and or and see what the plan is. Some of it is still in draft form. Some of it they're going to be, I think, adjusting as it go so I'm January four if they did come up with something called a final pilot plan, but a lot of that plan is in draft form. I happen to get somebody in a weak moment who gave it to me, but it's not it's not. It's not a public that which is a which I think is a problem. If people have been clamoring or an alternative response to law enforcement. Put the plan up. I don't care if it's a draft or not. So everybody taught. I hate the word transparency, right, I hate that. Worth that and there's a couple words. It just really bothered me. Transparency bothers me because what is, what is? What does transparent me? You can see through it. Yep, what they're used to be. Before transparency became a positive word, there was. You would say, Oh my God, I see right through you. Yep, negative, right, right, went up to I see right through you. Yep. So to me, when I hear somebody say you're being transparent, I go yeah, I see right through you. So I see to what's behind you. So don't tell me...

...that you're being transparent with this plan when the public cannot go to a website and read it. Right, I see right through you. I agree with you a hundred percent. People have been waiting for this forever. Right the the there's been the protest about the Daniel proof thing. That was one of the main concerns, the fact that there was an overreactment to Mr proved situation. So they wanted. They wanted a team that would react better to those kind of circumstances and well, would react differently. Right, no, that's better. Right, right, general isn't pull this that. We don't know that. It was an overreaction, right. What we know was the encounter ended not the way. There you go, that that's and that's a better way to set. You're right. We're not, we're not. I don't want to place play when anyone sholders yet, but let's just say the end result was not good. The end result was that result obviously not good for Mr Food and the young he'sail was not good for any Fred, anybody right, came in contact with with that. So that was the big impetus for this. It was calling about we need a different way to do this. Okay, fine. So a question at the news conference was asked by one of my media colleagues. Would Daniel proved had this person in crisis teams, called the pick team, had that been in place on March twenty three? Would that have responded to? Daniel pruved the response from Daniel Lyman Tours, who's the head of the Commissioner of the Department of Recreation and Human Services said that she had not assessed that to know. Well, so the pit team is going to be in during the pilot. The pick team is going to be dispatched only when, if for for a narrow for three types of calls that involve mental health. However, there can be no violence, no crime being committed and no weapons catcher. So Daniel Prune was breaking windows. So he was so and that not at that time. But there have been a call right some foody is doing some damage to things. Right, that's a potential crime being committed right away. That would seem to to disqualify the pick team. Now. Not a question that I asked Daniel Lyman Torus. I said, okay, so you're going to there's going to be a triage being done at two one one, which is lifeline. They will triage this call, find out what exactly is happening, get a lot of information passed on the nine hundred and one. My question was, are you going to stage police? Because in September, when county executive Adam Bellow talked about this from the county standpoint, former Mayor Bill Johnson said these things can go bad very quickly and nobody knows. So the call comes in, it's a okay, we're going to send the pick team. The pick team or pick team arrived and it's situations Z. it's completely changed in the time it took say it take that. They do have an emergency button on their radios that they can hit and say, you know, and have contact to hate. The situations changed. However, at this point they will not be staging police. They will not be sending a car, not necessary, right to the scene, but to say we sent the pick team to a one, two, three, a street. All right, if if there's a car in the general neighborhood, can they kind of hang you know, just, yeah, I got you. They may not be needed. If this drive by, everything will be everything will be great. Picked team will handle it, but just a case out there. They're look like a tea in case. Right. At this point they are not staging police because or ambulance because, from what Daniel Lamon tour said, the calls are being sent on the art. Aren't going to be deemed that that's going to be required again. You know, you started as by introducing me as a positive person until something goes wrong. Right, right, no, I know. Yeah, the person is in some kind of distress. Yeah, they they're not going to be calm down by you know, look at whenever you take for state or see P are. What's the first thing they tell you? Before you go in? You gotta is the scene. Say, Yep, you got assess the scene. That's the first thing that it is a thing about what forcement? Thing about law enforcement. They go in when the scene is not safe. Yep, that's true. That is true. You know, questions that I right. They questions that I would raise. And regardless, because you bring up a lot of interesting points here, not having an ambulance that makes that's kind of...

...concerning because if someone really is in some sort of distress mentally, I would think that you might want to have that because it they may be going through an episode where they need to be transported for medical attention. So I don't understand that. And also the if a crime is being committed, the question I guess I would ask is would they look at the they're not police, so I don't even know if this is a valid question to ask, but would it depend on that's that type of crime, because if you if you think about it, if you want to get down to the bare bones, of like, let's say Daniel prude. He was naked, right, so public in decency, technically, is also a crime. So so I'm just saying, would it? Would there be specifications on the type of crime someone, someone who's have an episode could be, you know, smashing things or throwing rocks or just, you know, just acting. Not. Yeah, the morning was a no crime being committed. So so the the calls, the initial calls, are non suicidal and alert suicidal, not threatening and then threatening suicide. If I'm reading this information tonight today, those are the types for meeting it correctly, those are those are the types of calls if they're starting. So someone's having someone's having a bad day. Yeah, and they need they need some they need some, some help. Now, on a parallel track to this, all law enforcement agencies in the county, so the nine or ten, I think you're nine, town and village departments, rpd and the sheriff, all have agreed that they will be paying out of their own budgets for forty hours a week training for all of their patrol people to take a crisis intervention training. So that's not going to happen tomorrow. Yeah, right, right, every every law enforcement agency signed on to this. That whether they do it is going to be something else, but they have signed an agreement. Whether they signed, they signed a letter saying this is important. We want all our staff trained in forty hours right now crisis intervention. You volunteer for this. If you're in a city, town, village or Sheriff's department, you volunteer hand want more training and crisis intervention right and you volunteer to go through this. This is going to be mandatory. Every person who has contact with the public and a road patrol is going to have this training. It took a two could take two or three years to do it right. So what that could mean is that law and for law enforcement person becomes more aware of better trained, more sensitive to someone in a mental health crisis. Just recognizing the signs of this can be helpful. Now Law enforce is not going to diagnose. I don't think the social workers and the mental health counselors are going to diagnose what they come upon right assess figure out what the level, what the potential harm is. Now another question was how you're going to transport these people. There are there were a variety of transport. Yeah, including, including ride hailing, you put this person in Uberall lift. That's ever terrible idea. YEA, so there is a potential for that. Again, I'm look at ninety eight percent of these are going to go fine. Right there is they're going to be assessed properly, the pick team is going to be Fanta tastic in ninety eight percent of these cases, but in a couple of them something will happen. Maybe once the person is being transported. You can't know what you don't know. R and so again, if we want to keep, if the goal is to keep everybody saying, yes, Daniel prude ended up not being safe. Other people have ended up not being safe. There are also people who law enforcement has come to that call and they have been safe. Law Enforcement has transported them to a hospital or to an open access and that has ended up fine. We don't hear about that. For whatever reason. We're not hearing about the calls right now where anywhere, from the sheriff's department, the Sheriff's Office and Zone See and Riga up to you know, fairport webster police up in the northeast part of the county are responding to these calls, transporting people dealing with them and...

...everything is going great. Do we need to have more mental health? Do we need to have changes in public safety? Yes, we do, but let's not make a change that put somebody at risk, because if that one person, if that, if this response ends badly, whether it's for the person transporting or whatever, we're going to be in the same situation we were in with Daniel coude. Right. Right. HAVE WE IMPROVED OVERALL? That's my question. Have we improved our public safety? Right, and your make good points, because you you don't know, especially if someone's having a mental episode. You don't know what their triggers are and you don't know what's going to trigger them to go in the opposite direction of getting better. Right. So, like you said, would I getting in the vehicle triggers that and they become more of a threat or something else happens, or would have just seeing people does it? You have no idea what their triggers are going to be, so it's hard to tell where things go. I'm with you on that. I want things, we change. Needs to happen. I'm not saying it doesn't, because it does. It does it happen, but we have to do it. In the best way possible, where the outcome is safety for everyone involved, every person, the person who's in crisis, the responders, the medical people that may show up, everyone who is going to show up to intervene, needs to feel like they're not going to have their lives threatened. And that's where we need to get to somehow. I'm just a broadcaster, I don't have the answer as how we get there, but we need to figure out the best way to get there. Agree with you on that. Right. There are better systems. No system is going to be perfect, but we have to we have to plan for the extremes, right and and so we have to consider the extremes of an extremely bad i'llcome in an extremely good outcome, right, and how do we and how do we play those because a lot of outcomes, a lot of them, who's may not be perfect, but a lot of outcomes are good, right, and everybody stay safe in those outcomes. That's what we have to that's the goal. Thinking right, that's that's the end goal. So another thing I just actually read this this morning. Educators across New Yorker calling on the State Education Department to cancel spring assessments for the second straight year, so I guess they did this. They did this last year. is also reach exams regions, exams for the middle and high school students and Ela and math assessments for great three through eight are the ones that they're cut their more focused on. Now. The State Board of regions can cancel the exam on its own, so don't really need any permission to do that. But it federal waivers are required to cancel the grade three through eight assessments because those are required by federal law. And this. So here's the kicker. This was done last year under president trump's administration. President Joe Biden obviously just became president pretty recently and he picked his education site secretary former Connecticut Education Commissioner Miguel Cardona, but he is not yet said whether he will grant waivers as year or not. So they're kind of waiting on whether he's going to prove it. Looks at the board for the regents as already looking to do that, but the I set up at the great three through eight assessments were still kind of witting on that for federal approval. Well, can't you opt out? Can a family opt out of those assessments? Math and ELA. Can a family opt out of those? Again not having right. So it's not something I know, but I always thought you could opt out because some of one of the criticism is it it more raids the teachers, and it does. Yeah, its is to a test. You know what, if I don't again nothing kids in school. Take this for what it's worth. But if you're claiming that a hybrid education is just as good, why not have the regions test? What that says to me is especially this year. Last year I could see it because as so much confusion. HMM, this year, if you don't do it, then to me you're saying that the education system that you're giving these kids is not up to what they would normally yet. Yep, that's what it says to me and that's what the people who are requesting here saying. The argument is that because there's not been standardized in structural modes that there should not be a standardized test either. That's what the argument is. I it is different. I'M NOT gonna lie. I can't. I can't say now. Here's me. Here's me being completely honest. I'm I'll be finishing up my master's course. has this semester. I had two more class of take and I'm done. But I've done my master's course is completely virtually even I started it before the pend of you even again. So I just shows that because I have a very busy schedule and it's hard for me to plan time to actually go to a classroom. So I've been doing firstly, regardless of...

...pandemic or not. So for so, for me personally, is not change anything. I was still I'm still getting the same education that I was briar for. For All the say this, though, for my bachelor's, when I went to school for a journalism broadcasting I think not being actually physically in class for some of those classes would have been a little difficult. I can't lie about that. I think that would have been challenging to do some of the things that we did virtually. So I do, I can see. I can kind of see the argument. I understand because it's it definitely is. It's a different feel and a different way to interact with people when you're doing everything virtually, or even a hybrid. We're only doing it for a few hours and a couple days. Then when you actually have that interaction, you know, one to one actually in room with your peers and your instructor. So I I don't know how I guess my answer that is, I don't know how I feel yet, because I can, I can kind of see the argument on both sides. I think by saying that, by saying like wanting to not have the regions, they're saying that the education that you've gotten this whole past academic year is substandard to what you would have gotten in class. So, Stuart, stop saying that you're getting if you stop saying you're getting the same education, you're getting the quality education, because if you really believe that, then have the region's test. Yea. So to me it's any to me it's saying that this hybrid model, whatever we've thrown together, it's not as good best of bad situation. That's all we're doing, is making the best of a bad situation. Right, we're not really we're going up wishing much other than other than trying to stop the bleed. You know right, in a sense, I am not a good online learner in my experience, and online education is a very, very poor substitute for in person, because you learn more from your classmates then you learn from your instructor. Yeah, by not arding that forth from your from your peers, you really you really miss out. And and I think back to one class I had in Grad school where I forget exactly what the topic was, but this person was he was seemed to be very knowledgeable about it. Was was speaking and he started discussion and the instructor realize that this was going to go in a different place, but it was. It was going to be a really good discussion furthering the aims, and he did not insert himself in it and just let the class take this over. You're not going to have that. Virtually, there's no way. There's no way you can you type in chats and not know this is. You're not going to have that. No, I agree with you. I'm a hundred percent agree with you. The only the only reason why it works for me with my graduate degree I'm taking right now is the majority of the things that I'm doing are individual projects, like I did a film, I did it, you know those. You don't really need that kind of you know, but you're right. That's why I said with my bachelor degree, a lot of times you elevate what you learn or you are inspired by the people that are in your class and if you're doing a virtually, you're not participating at the same time. A lot of times that virtual. You just you, there's a discussion board, you answer discussion question here or do something there. You're not really actually interacting with one another another. And that is necessary and many, many fields, and you do miss that when you do virtual. So I completely agree with you. All right, the last thing I wanted to mention. I'm sorry, go on, Patty. Well, one of the things we've talked about is one of the things that have suffered in journalism in the cold and Covid is newsrooms are remote. Its working for yes, yes, probably, when I meet my colleagues out at news conferences, we still have a few of those, they will stay that they missed that because of a newsroom. Is a journalism is a team sport. Yes, and it's collaborative. And so I would say to you, even with your theater project, your film project, if you met once a week and see how everybody else was doing and shared some thoughts, that I would argue that project would be better because somebody was for something. I have a suggestion that you hadn't thought of, for somebody would be some encouragement, there'd be something you would get from that. It would make that better, and that's where one of the ways journalism have suffered in this because everybody's working remotely and you don't have that Team Spirit that helps you, help you through, it helps make the product. Then again, don't disagree. I had one very good professor who kept who kept me in check, but you're right. I think more eyes on the project makes gives you more ideas and and it gives you a better way to be creative. I no argument there. I will always I will always say that in person is...

...better as a better experience and it is better for anyone than virtual. I know some people, some people, don't do bad with the virtual but I still will argue that in person is always better than virtual. All right, we have a little time left. Last thing I want to cover, and I know we kind of talked about this earlier before we got on air today. The covid numbers are trending down though the what I'm holding in my hand and the latest numbers here. So there were two hundred eighty nine you confirmed cases in yesterday's report and that's below the seven day rolling average. The test. The test positivity rates are the lowest they've been in in two months. There have been no new death report yesterday. However, eight hundred and nine three people have died in the county since the start of the pandemic and more than forty five thousand have had confirmed fashion. So the trend is going down. We were in the six hundreds for a while. Now we're like two hundred and eighty nine. And vaccinations have been happening, obviously. I think the last time I read there's been about sixty point three million vaccinations in general. I'm not talking about just obviously locally. I'm talking about throughout the world. I believe have been dealt, I've been given out. So my question to you is, do you think there's any correlation with that at all? No, remember to expound on the Oh, I don't know. I don't because. All Right, so the counties vaccine supply is now week to week. I know somebody WHO's supposed to go on Monday. I was told no, now it's Wednesday. Yeah, okay, we'll see a couple other numbers to look at. Six hundred and ninety two people are hospitalized. A hundred thirty nine of them are in the ICEU. Those numbers haven't really budged. Yeah, we've been in from six hundred and fifty two to the high seven hundreds for several weeks on that and we've been stuck with over a hundred thirty people in the ICU. Again, this is region why they're in the ICU. They may or may not have beon eventilated, but in the ICU. The numbers that the state are now looking at about what your zone is is high hospital beds. So the percentage of hospital beds and Finger Lakes on a seven day rolling averages thirty three percent. Percentage of ICEEU beds is twenty two percent, still well above the threshold to make us a red zone. Those numbers aren't moving right. All right, you look back for a couple weeks, those numbers haven't moved perceptively. The thirty four percent. It's been twenty one percent. Now I don't believe the percentage of ICU beds has been below twenty percent. If it has, it's been only a day or two and back up to twenty percent of the beds are available. Those are the numbers if the state wants to look at hospital capacity. To me, those are the numbers to look at, because the number of positive cases is a function of how many people get tested. We have shifted, I think we did. I mean there's so many questions to ask this week at the briefing. I mean I've got five of them. It's funny. I miss the last two bretons. I'm going to ask them, going to say, Hey, I miss the last two briefings. Can I have four questions to make up for that? Right, yeah, and make up for that. We've shifted. I think we have shifted away from testing to vaccinations. I think that's a bit of a mistake. So two hundred and eighty nine total new cases. We don't know how many of those. We do know from the positive rate. You can figure that out. I'm not good enough at math to do that, but other people are. I'm looking at hospitalizations, on hospital capacity. Those are the numbers I care about now, right because certain because that's that's the down stream of a positive case when you start, hey have a positive case, you could sail right through this. I could end up in the ICU. Right. That's absolutely correct. And you write the more the less people in the hospital, the better things are getting. That makes that makes perfect sensect. So we've got seven hundred people still hospitalized and of the people who were hospital I just do the math. Six hundred ninety two people are hospitalized. A hundred thirty nine of them are in the ICEU. So if that was ten percent, that would be sixteen. That's twenty percent of the people in the ICEEU, or thereabouts. That to me. I don't know how to put that into context, but twenty percent of the people hospitalizer in the ICU. I have to go back months to see how that relates. Right, this is better or worse? Right, that has been but that, to me is concerning. Yeah, so I think. I think beyond just looking at the number of cases. Look deeper, look at what the capacity is, look at people who are hospitalized. How sick are they? Right, Patty, you're awesome. I was appreciated. Hey, don't forget, Patty did some headline moves this earlier in the program when we first started. If you miss those, if you want to see what those were, if you want to get the full versions of those, make sure...

...you go to minority reporter dotnet. The full versions of those headlines are there. Also, if you want to subscribe to the minority reporter. I'm sorry, Patty the I don't know when. You also need to thank somebody. Remember to thank somebody before we're done. Oh yeah, I will. Don't you where I got that a role here, you know. I want to make sure you're right. We thank somebody. I do that every once in a while. You're absolutely correct. Also, as I was saying, if you want to subscribe to the minor reporter, you certainly have that option there. I have subscribed. I know a lot of friends of mine who have subscriptions because we do like to support local journalism and also get the stories that matter most to us, that represent our community. That's the reason why we subscribe, so that you have that option to do that. There is a hard copy and also the digital copy versions available, so you have options there as well. Also, if you're just tuning in right now, guess what, the show is over. You missed it, but that's okay. All the episodes of inside the margins are podcast on our website at inside the margins, Radiocom, on iheartcom and wherever you get your podcast. And with Patti mentioned or alluded to earlier, definitely got to think our sponsors, salvators Salvat ours is a proud sponsor of our program and we are happy that they have chosen to sponsor our program and there is a big game, I hear, coming up soon, so you may want to have that game catered with food. I think salators might be a great option for you. So check out. Just go to salutorscom. You can see what kind of foods are available and we're the nearest location is to you. I'm I think that's who I'm supposed to think. Does anybody care about that in now? Well, I'm a raiders fan, so I haven't cared for a while, but that's that's neither here there. But yes, some rady haters will come out. Oh yeah, I guess I do care around right, I'm a raiders fan, so I'm also our bread, that Brady Hater. But we won't, we won't get into but all right. Well, Patty, always a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining us. I still, I still owe you a salvoturis pizza. Make. I will, I will do that. I promise you'll get a salaturs pizza from me to you and when we enjoining together, absolutely I'm looking forward to that day. All right, for Patty singer. This is Matt Wilson and this is inside the margins and we'll see you next week. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom inside the margins is sponsored by salvators. I just took a DNA test. Turns out I'm a hundred percent Rochester. That's right, I got seven Hundredzero matches. We are all coogee's. I can't wait to shook your hand. Oh wait, I can't, but I can feed you salvators famous fum and you touchless delivery. Thecom.

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