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Episode 21 · 2 years ago

Rochester Police Concerns

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Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. Welcome to another edition of inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson, and it is Memorial Day. The weekend was nice, the weather cooperated. A couple things I want to mention before we talk to our reporter, Patty Singer, with the latest headline news. I don't really I'm not really a fan of the the phrase Happy Memorial Day, and I think a lot of people who have served the military will here that. I served. It was a brief stint. I didn't see any I'm not a combat veteran, so that's why I don't really talk about it that much on the show. I don't think. I don't even think I've ever mentioned it before, but Memorial Day is not really happy. People gave the ultimate sacrifice so we can have the freedoms that we have in this country. They died, so there's nothing happy about that. You can certain, you're certainly can enjoy the memorial day because that's the liberties and freedoms that you were given because of that. So yeah, of course go out and barbecue and grill and enjoy the day, but it's not really happy Memorial Day. And second thing I like to mention too, is for living veterans. Usually this is not the day where you tell them thank you for your service, because they lived. The Veterans Day is for for the for the average veteran. Memorial Day is for people who actually did not make it. So, even though we're honor and and you know, most of us are happy when people say that, I, like I said, I kind of shy away from all that attention, but it's still it's this is more to to remember the ones who sacrifice, and today, especially because of this disease, I'll even include the frontline workers, the doctors, the nurses who put their lives on the line to try to flatten the curve and who gave their lives. We have nurses and factors who have passed away because of this. So even today I might I might want recommend that we honor and remember those as well. All right, so that's what I want to lead off with. Now let's get into our headline news. Hopefully, well, a little bit more cheerful. I'm maybe not. You never know what the news it is happy to what May. We all have a big we all have a meaningful there we go. That's well said, Patty. By the way, this is Patti singer from the minority reporter and I hope you and do your best to enjoy your Memorial Day, Patty, and also be safe as well. It will be meaningful. It's a it's a it has been, it will be continues to be a meaningful day. Excellent, excellent. Well, thank you as usual for joining us, Patty. And what's going on in the headlines today? Well, the Rochester City School district had a busy week in the last the last few days they had reset on the superintendent search and Lesley Myers small gets the top job. The year after not making the shortlist, the superintendent of the RCS D was the Myers small was full list. School Board President Van White said that it was unanimous from beginning to end that Myers small would be named to succeed Terry Dave. Myers small is the former superintendent of the brockport central school district and since January she has served as assistant commissioner for the Office of innovation and school reform for the State Education Department, and she started officially on May nineteen at the RCSD. Just prior to her arriving, the district lost another one. Bob Franklin headed back to the county as CFO. He was chief financial officer of the Rochester City School district and he resigned make fifteen and returned to his...

...former job with the county. He suited a two paragraph for sentence. A letter to ourcsd deputy superintendent, went to quick and chief of Staff and Mary Lena. He said, with this letter I am providing thirty days notice of my resignation. My last day will be Sunday June fourteen. I am proud to have worked with the two of you and the entire finance team since being of January. That said, I am not right for the Rochester City School district. The resignation letter of Bob Franklin and other city news. The property taxes up but essential services are saved. In the PROPOS City Budget, Mayor Lovely Warren submitted a proposed five hundred and twenty nine point six million dollars spending plan to council. The plan calls for the city to use some of its rainy day fund and to raise property taxes on homeowners by a total of nine million dollars. The total budget is twenty six million dollars less than the amended budget for the current year and it reflects austerity dictated by the pandemic. In opinion, Jesse Jackson writes about remembering the legacy of Brown versus the Board of Education. May Seventeen marked the sixty five sixty six anniversary of the landmark one thousand nine hundred and fifty four Supreme Court decision. The Brown decision address consolidated issues from four different cases in Kansas, South Carolina, Delaware and Virginia involving racial segregation. The unanimous opinion of the court is written by Earl Lawren, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower's newly appointed chief justice. The court declared that forced segregation of children in public schools violated due process of the Fourteenth Amendment and was unconstitutional. But, but Jackson writes, Brown is about much more than schools. It was a death. Now he says, for legal apartheid in the United States, originally sanctioned in the dread that dread Scott decision of oneusd eight hundred and fifty seven and codified and see versus Ferguson in one thousand eight hundred and ninety six Columnis, George Payne gives ten reasons president trump should wear a mask and we will not have a spoiler alert on that. So you'll need to read that and find out. I know those find out those reasons. In the cover story, covid nineteen is hitting like a tornado in minority communities. Dr Angela Branch, who was an infectious disease specialist at the University of Rochester Medical Center, said that sorting through all the information about covid nineteen can be confusing and conflicting. She said if she weren't in healthcare, she wouldn't know who to trust. It is branch who described covid nineteen as a tornado in the community and she explains what people need to know to be safe during this time. That Nice. With the hanging thing there are always leaving wanting more. Thank you so much, Patti. Certainly appreciate that and, like Patty said, if you do want to get the full version of any of these stories that you just heard Patty talk about and Headline News, make sure you go ahead and visit the minority reporter dotnet. You can read the entire versions of all these stories that you just mentioned. Also, you will have the opportunity to subscribe to the minority reporter as well, which I certainly suggest you do. Local media always needs your support, so do your best to support them. All you have to do is go to the website and you can subscribe right there. You can get the online virgin or even get the hard copies. Also, if you want to suggest a topic or if you have any suggestions or opinions that that you want to submit to the minority reporter, you can do so by saying an email to editor at minority reporter DOTNET. And, as always, you can find a link to the minority reporter and also past episodes of this show on inside the margins at inside the margins RADIOCOM, and you can email us at inside margins at gmailcom. All right,...

...we're going to go ahead and take a quick break. When we come back we will get into our topic with patty singer. This is inside the margins. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom. Welcome back to inside the margins. Okay, let's go ahead and get right into it. All right, Patty. So the police have been in the news quite a bit locally here in Rochter. Before we even jump into some of these stories there, I just want to lead off by saying as an African American male, I certainly can understand some of the disdain sometimes that some people do have for office shows because they're you know, sometimes situations get heated when you're a minority. I recalled patty a long time ago when I was a young kid and I moved when we first moved from the city to the suburbs. So we used to live in the city that my dad got a great job and he took the family out to the suburbs and one of my first jobs that I had out in the suburbs I was a paperboy and I delivered papers to the entire neighborhood. Now we were pretty much the only African American family in that neighborhood and I remember it was probably the second or third week of be delivering papers. Towards the end of my route, police were following me and I did not understand why they were following me and my brother was it was a it was during the winter, it was cold, so my brother didn't want me to to write my bike around, so I was in his car but I still was wearing the big orange and and blue bag. It was a Democrat and chronicle that I happened to be delivering at that time in the morning. So after we finished my route, he drove us up to the local wigmans out there so we could have some donuts, and the COP followed us out to wag means as well and we were like that's kind of odd. So we went to Wagrans, got the donuts and on the way home, probably about three houses before our house, the lights came on, pulled us over. I mean it's get out of the car, search the car, you know, called back up the whole nine yards and I was given the story that there was reported crimes in that area and I fit the description and my brother and myself we were so angry because we know there wasn't reported crimes in the area. And the only reason why I fit the descriptions because I was the brand new African American kid going door to door. Although we're again this big orange and blue bag that said democratic criticle full of papers. So yes, that things like that do happen. I'm not saying they don't because I was a victim of it and I understand that. But I also want to say, and then you, I'll let you retort to patty, all police officers aren't that way. As I've gotten older and as I've seen some success in life and now I have acquired things and I don't want to be robbed, I don't want my children to be hurt. I require the protection of law enforcement and I want them to let you look out for me and my family as well. So I can't hate all police because of what that one police officer did way back one. But does it happen? Yes, but are all police that way? No. And what are your thoughts on that, Patty. So, as I was looking at video from, I think it was, the Friday night incident. Yes, I I can't remember Joseph Avenue, I think it was, or it and was for it was for the video that and I'm seeing these mostly young men. I'm thinking, how many years will it be before they are calling nine hundred and one one because something is going on in the neighborhood, they don't like, something has happened to...

...them or a loved one, and all of a sudden they realize the only people who can defend them and help them the people that they are mocking at this point not following instructions, of giving a difficult time to you know, I was on a call one day last week. I for the exactly day it was, but the Childi Avenue in Salina Street, neighbors were talking with a representative of rpd about what had happened there right in the previous week. And the people on the phone we're saying, you know, we have to live here. These young people are coming in, they don't live in the neighborhood, they're driving by with the loved music, they're, you know whereing here. This is our neighborhood. What can you do about this? And I'm thinking, and how many years will it be before these young people have their own families and someone's driving by with the base just breaking the windows wild and saying, you know, this has to stop. What is that a maturity? Yeah, is that just strictly matures? That strictly we going from being seventeen, eighty nine and twenty one to being thirty one, thirty two? Will some people never get to that maturity level? Will the people who do look back and go, oh my gosh, I really want to ring every doorbell in that neighborhood and say I'm sorry, you know right. I don't know the answers to that, but but you you you make a point that at some point in your life you were going to need the people that right now a segment of our population is just disrespecting to the instagree. Right now what you're saying is correct, and my honest opinion of that is it is a maturity thing. I honestly believe that because I was the young kid blasting music allowed as I could in my car or having my in my friend's car when we were blasting music, and even even my life. She said that she used to do that. She used to blast music or ride with people were blast music. And you know, once you get older, that's not a cool thing anymore. You know now, I especially if you have your own family and your sole purpose in life now is the safety and protection of your family. So now, when that happens, when you are the person now who wants to protect your family, you need help. You're going to need help because there are people out there that do bad things and you know, I you can always try to kick it upon yourself to try to protect your family, but there's going to come a point in time where you may not be able to do that or you may need some backup, back of assistants. And who are you going to call what that happens? You're going to you're going to need the help of local law enforcement to help you out there. So you shouldn't have blind hate for the police. There's no reason for that. They're and, like I said before, as the story I told, there are bad apples out there. There are ones that have stereotypes or or, you know, pre predetermined thoughts of what they think you are. That that does exist. And my suggestion when you think that's happening to you, because your first reaction is to get upset and to pound your chest and say this is wrong and I'm not going to let you do this to me. But you got to remember they have a gun, they have a badge and they have a way to call more people with more guns and more badges. So the probability of you winning that battle is very low. So for the time being, just for your personal safety, even if they are wrong, listen to what they say. Do It, do what you got to do and then, you know what, take their take them to court afterwards. If you think they were there wrong, suthe them, get...

...a lawyer up. Do what you got to do. But just for your personal safety, when the cops pull the gun out and tell you to do something, don't get all bad and say, you know, get all fight the power mode, because a lot of the nine times of the ten, you're not going to win that battle. So what is interesting now, which probably changed? One of the things that change from when you were a young team, I'm guessing. Yeah, yes, you're absolutely right, wearing the papers is now there's body cameras. Yes, so I guess. And I've even had this what I have called police to my house for reason, you know, neighbor issues, whatever. I have asked, is your body camera on, because that is going to be that is going to be the the most objective view that you can get right, which one of our segues into the group? One hundred and four incident. Yeah, we'll talk about that next. Yeah, but so, if so, my advice to anybody, black or white, male or female, in an encounter with law enforcement that could go sideways to say, is your body camera on, because I have heard stories that in in the heat of this, especially with a with a more veteran officer who didn't go through training with a body camera like a young officer. Now it's as natural as time rights, mandatory. Now right, boom, they hit, they hit the camera, they're gone. But if you have somebody who has been on the force for several years that there's still maybe learning to turn that on. So if there's a a veteran officer, is your body camera on, and ask it in a neutral way, because it is supposed to be on. That's why they have it right. They may have forgotten to turn it on. Oh yes, it is on. Okay, thank you. Now we will proceed with this because we all want to record of this. So we'll do sort of first things first. In the traffic stop which was on one on four, which I believe was the previous weekend, things are starting to run. Yeah, it's still still feels that way. Better, you're fine. So what also happens to is that everybody has body camera, fooge R, because everybody has a fault. So everybody's got their own version of all a body one camera. It's called their cell phone, and it's tempting to believe the first video that you see out there. Often the police become I'm not an apologist for police, but they have to investigate these that cannot always release everything right away. That being said, as a member of the media and as a citizen in this community, I don't feel I should have to file freedom of information for every bit of body camera footage. I think body camera footage should be made available absolutely very timely manner. Right so an incident happens, a wonderfol let's have police review the body camera footage and, as soon as possible put out as much of that footage as possible. Because is what was the date on this? I don't see it right away, but there was a statement released, oh May. This is may twenty two. So this is what five days after the event, the chief single tarry releases a statement that there had been an online news conference in one of the reporters, was not me or the reporters had asked about the previous night. I one four. So he talked about it on this news conference. Said very general things. I need to review the footage, things like that. said there was going to be an internal review so on. On the twenty two, which was four days after he's asked the question, right days after the incident. Quote from his statement, I reviewed the body warn camera video of each officer involved in the traffic stop,...

...the facebook video circular on social media, relevant reports generated by the officers involved in the findings of the internal review. After a careful review of the aforementioned information, I can say in the affirmative that none of the police officers, are supervisors involved violated any policy or procedure of the Rochester Police Department. He goes on to say as chief, it is my job to review the facts of every case through an objective lens and render a decision based on those facts. I have done that in this case. As he goes on to say, in the case of any review, do you look to see what best practices are being used by other law enforcement agencies and similar situations? This review is no different. So a ten year old was placed in handcuffs. The ten year old I was able to see by so you know, or had heard have been told at various bits of this information. I have not again, I filed freedom information. I'm it'd seen the whole the whole video, but I've talked to people and trust what I have been told about what was what was on it. So they're one and four, which is, you know, it's a pretty busy road right asking this young person to please get out of the car being met with resistance. When the person does come, when you in person does come out of the car, I'm told, you know, she turns around and puts her hands in the position to be to be handcuffed. The officer leads her to another car and helps her get into the back seat of the car. On social media things like that. Things she was thrown in the back of the car. That did not happen. So one of the things that police officers are taught to do, and I have been told this by people who police officers are to control a scene. So you have someone who's behavior maybe unpredictable on new one, O four, what would you do? You allow somebody, a child, who's behavior maybe unpredictable, to just not have any structure, put it that way, to be wet, to be brought to safety. Right. So what goes wrong here? Right, the child gets excited, tries to break away from the officer. They are they are right at the white line of one, one, four. What happens with it when car comes by? Right, and RPD is not trained to stay troopers. They don't have a lot of the highway experience on these kinds of stops. Most stops you're going to see URPDD was probably in the city. Right, so you'll pull off to a side street. Traffic is less than traffic is going slower. So there's a lot of ways this could have been an absolute disaster. Right. I'm kind of glad you said that, because this, to me, this is one of those situations where it's a damned if you do, Dann, if you don't, situation, because you outline of perfectly. So according to so, I was, you know, overlooking the story as you were kind of explaining what happened, and it looks like the twenty one year old who was involved was was kind of refusing to provide proof of the all license and was resisting a little bit. So she was, she was a little unruly. And you know, a ten year olds, a ten year old. I have a I have a young child too, and you know, when things are kind of going crazy and you know, there's multiple people and there's, you know, probably elevated voices and the child is confused and there's traffic. There is traffic and, and that's the thing, when there's traffic, you have to do your best to try to, you know, make sure everyone is safe and you know, adults may most of the time have common sense and will...

...do their best to avoid being put into a situation where they're going to be hit by oncoming traffic, but children don't have that, especially younger children. They could they don't know. They're not looking at all directions, are not seeing all the traffic. So, you know, does does putting handcuffs on a ten year old seem extreme if you don't know the full context of everything? Yeah, you wouldn't want it. You would never would want to see a child of that age cuffed because you got because they're not really they're not not probably going to cause out of harm to a police officer. But this is not about causing harm. I think. I think this is about try and provide safe to her. And again, I always say when you said a perfectly about the body can one footage is released. Usually whoever releases the footage is releasing the footage that makes them look the best in their life. So if you're the person who is you have a complaint, you're releasing the footage that makes you look right, and if you're the person is trying to defend yourself, you're releasing the footage that makes you look right. So you need to see everything and when you see everything, that's when you know exactly what happened and that's when to get the actual facts, and that as sided view of what really happened. So we got so so the officers are making a traffic stop. They see that there. I think the vehicle was unregistered. Yeah, expired expension and it's an unsafe vehicle. The tires of all right, correct me if I'm wrong, because you have that in front of you and I don't. I believe they were unlicensed operators. Yeah, but the twenty one year old was not refused to provide proof of having a license. So with the bit she was asked and she didn't and whether she had or not she would not provide that. So these are individuals who were claiming sovereign status, that the rules of country don't apply to them. So right away, if if the child is seeing that, maybe absorbing some of some heightened emotion on this. So, you know, officers are there to serve and protect. Well, in this case they're trying to protect them trying to protect themselves as well as they're trying to protect the people that they are sworn, you know, to protect her right. This is this is an impossible situation that, had it gone wrong, how are you that officer who doesn't, I'm going to use the word, restrain and that made that's going to put an image in somebody's head, but to restrain this young person for everybody's protection. Right, okay, we're having this conversation and a nice quiet place, traffics not going by sixty miles and all right, right, you have to make this decision in a split second. So am I coming off as an apologies for police? If I am, I've a nephew who's in law enforcement, so maybe that's, you know, and he's had to do stops like this. Maybe that's maybe that's some over where I'm coming from. But the other part of this is that I don't want to be that motorist on one all four who ends up with a ten year old on my hood. Right, right, for fifty year old. Right, anybody on my hood, the bicyclist, you know I'm Parkas Yeah, anybody on the hood of my car. Yep, that's kind of that's kind of the point I was making. So what if he didn't restrain the child and the child ran into traffic and got hit? So then the question becomes, why didn't you do something to restrain this child from from from the stepping? That's why I say it's a damned if you do, then if you don't, you know and it's and it's a you're going to get both sides. You're going to get people are saying, well, there's no use, there's never reason to put a ten year old and cuffs, and then there's going to be the people that what we try to do on this show is try to give you the information so you can process your own thought process, and I'm just saying make sure you look at everything before you come to a declusion, conclusion of what...

...you think was right. I have, I have children and the safety of my children, as I as we talked earlier, is always going to be in my head and that's always going to come first. And if you know, if it's explained to me later on, that listen, I did that because your child was kind of going alone. That's what this is happening and I don't want her to get hurt, so I cut her. That's that was the only thing I could think of. Yeah, I'm maybe I'm not gonna be happy that she was in cuffs, but I'm probably more willing to understand why that happened. And, you know, I think that's why you got to look at everything. That's a very important and and the thing is, you know, when information is released five days after it happened, four days after it's asked about, people may wonder what that's a really good point, is there. Oh, and again, I'm not a lawyer, I don't work the police part. I don't know sort of rules of evidence, what they have to do, what can be put out as soon as possible, because social media gets ahead of the chain of command in a sense, and so people already have their minds made up and sometimes the first thing you see is what you want to believe. If you tend not to want to believe the police anyway, when they finally come out with something, are you going to be incredibly open to that? Right again, they can't rush to judgment. They've got to investigate because, you know, I'm sure there's collective partying, I'm sure there's all kinds of things that dictate all they need to go through their investigations. But I guess as a citizen and as a reporter, I would like access to something a little quicker than four or five days, and I think the community would too, you know. And then that takes us to what was it? Friday night, I guess right. Yeah, just having you with again another large, large crowd gather. Are these related? On the face of it, no, but as people read about certain incidences with a really only one side of the story, are they more inclined to try to take their own liberties? Right, right, I'm a little upset because I'm running out of time. I want to get to that story. We spend a lot on this one. Didn't get it, get the other one, but the last the last thing I want to leave them with Patty, with people with Patty, is just the fact that that first thing you said to me out of what we talked about is probably the most important thing. I think we've mentioned this before at a for relevance to another story, which is the speed of which information is released, and I think actually that was in regards to the to the whole Terry Day thing that we talked about. But I think that's always what the problem is. When you are slow to release or have a statement about something, that gives people time to start wondering and processing all these crazy thoughts in their head. Not Crazy, but just you start to question things that people don't answer give you answers immediately. You think it was a cut and dry situation, that you're going to get quick answers, and when it takes days to hear about something that you think you should hurt, you should have heard about, you know, in hours or maybe a day, that makes you start wondering whether whether any side was right or wrong. I think the quicker we get information out when it like, like you said, when it comes to these body cams or anything like that, when information is released quicker and the Publicans can can look at the information themselves faster, it will answer a lot of questions and speculation kind of goes down when you do that, right. Yeah, and and and what? It takes away the what are you trying to hide, even though you're not trying to hide anything. Right, takes away that thought from people's head. The one thing I do want to say. I know that we're yeah, no, great good, the incidences of large gatherings. So one of the things that I was thinking about talk about large gatherings reopenings.

I think that the reopening of the economy is going to slow down because we can't close things down again. So instead of two week phases, strictly a guess on my part, right, going to go to four phases because if the incubation period is fourteen days, going to four weeks gives us a full two week look back to the end of that previous days is open like. So, instead of every two weeks, we open, I think every every three or four weeks to give us more time to look back. And I say that because it will be interesting to stay if there are spikes in cases in certain neighborhoods after we have these large gathering now. So if you've got two or three hundred young people on Joseph Avenue, if you've got fifty or sixty on Park Avenue, if you've got a bunch of people at the beach. You know, I'm interested in if we have contact tracers for the new cases that come up. Where have have these been hot spots? Have has the disease been training right at Joseph add a more suburban area, at the beach? That's what I think our government and public health officshers are going to look at as we begin to say can we continue to reopen at the pace that we're reopening at? So I think in two weeks it will be interesting to see the number of cases after Memorial Day weekend when we have all probably been a little laxer. Then, yeah, right, right, and see what happens. Yeah, because that's one of the things after Joseph Avenue the police chief came out with talked about. You know, aside from the obvious disregard for social distance in guideline, large disruptive gatherings are nuisance to our fellow citizens would like to enjoy the comfort of their homes and neighborhoods. Obviously that is just adding more stressed to people who are already stressed during this time but does this? Can we we figure out if these large gatherings, wherever they are occurring, will be contributing to the transmission of hopes? Yes, these are all great points. I really want to talk to a talk about the the whole setting up precedence for the large gatherings by the mayor. I want to get into all of that, which I think we're going to do. I think when to talk about that next week on our show. anyways, they we're going to. We're going to have a touch on all that. Use For we're real quick before we get out of here. I was at my other job all I was listening to a national story, different state. They kind of opened up fully. I can't and I cannot recall for the love of them which date it was. So I you know, I'm sorry about the fact that the lack of facts on this, but but it was at state that that's pretty much completely open and the barber shops were open and this person was cutting hair and this person who was cutting hair contracted covid tested positive and people that this person cut hair for also began to test positive. So what you're talking about as a very real, real situation that could happen once, once this weekend is over, where I am a hundred percent certain many people are probably going to gather more so than they you they normally did, instead of just you and your immediate family. I'm almost certain people have had people are going to have other people over or see other people. So I'm going to be curious to see what happens when all the numbers come out as well. Son, a couple things on that. One of can you draw that straight line? That thought that that was the transmission, yes, style with barber, to people because you're with other people. Call Me Scrooge, all right, call me scrooge. I was really hoping that the Memorial Day weekend would have a lot of way. I was really hope for for URPD Sake, for the for Dr Michael Mendos's sake, for everyone's very, very difficult time. It's an incredibly stressful time. Yeah, you know rain.

Yeah, we would have been unhappy, but we're still we're still in our homes, which, you know, we're kind of getting, unfortunately used to that, but there's nothing like a well placed rain storm to keep, you know, and safe. The reason why you're one of my favorite people, pat as because you you always have a logic based thoughts. It's a screwgus. It is a scrooge thing to say, but there's logic to it. I appreciate thank you. Nice thing, betty, seeing everybody. Don't forget you could. You can check out all of her stories and all the other people that report for that wonderful paper on the minority reporter dotnet. Make sure you do subscribe to that. You can get all the full stories there, and also this episode and all episodes can be found on inside the margins radio dot and net. Thanks as always, Patti. Stay safe for the remainder of your Memorial Day. You too it again as we started off, but may it be meaningful to you. Absolutely. I appreciate that. All right, we have a little bit of time left. I'll play you a quick clip when we come back of the Rock city showcase. I got a chance to speak with another reporter. Her name is Kayla Green. She's a reporter for channel late news. She's also a broad port a lum. That's how I was able to get a hold of her. You know, Brockport ties always get lucky with that. So stay tuned. Will play couple the clip of that this is inside the margins. Will be right back. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom. Welcome back to inside the margins. So we will end off today show with the clip from the Rock City showcase, and I love this clip because it's an interview with a rising star in medias. She is a reporter for channel late news here in Rochester, New York, and her name is Kayla Green. She's also a fellow brockport graduate, so I was very happy to have her be part of that show. So I will definitely play you a clip of that. And don't worry, you can find the entire interview on the Rock City showcase podcast, which is currently available wherever you get your podcasts, and also on our website at inside the mark is radiocom under the Rock City showcase podcast tab. But before I do that, just wanted to remind you that this is Memorial Day, right and Memorial Day is not about celebrating veterans. It's about celebrating those who did not come back, those who went to serve their country and gave the ultimate sacrifice. I don't really mention that much. That I was in the military was very brief and I was not a combat veteran and you know, it wasn't it really tough for me. But I know a lot of people who did serve combat and they saw some terrible things out there and they also have seen and witnessed their comrades lose their lives on the battlefield or on a ship or something like that. So it isn't an important holiday. And I say I never want to say Happy Memorial Day because Memorial Day isn't really a happy day. It's a day that we honor those who've passed. So obviously enjoy it. Don't want to leave you on a Downer here. I want you especially it's the weather's been pretty decent. So I know the weekends been great and I hope you enjoyed the weekend. But just enjoy it, you know, Cook, spend some time with your family if you can. Enjoy that, but just remember the real reason why we celebrate this holiday and and remember what it means to a lot of people who have actually served in the military and also include that I want to honor those on the front lines of this current crisis, those people who have put their lives on the line to help others...

...get, you know, in the face of this disease, and we've actually lost a lot of people in the nursing and the Diet doctors and nurses and people better on this they've actually lost their lives. So they gave the ultimate sacrifice to try to help people combat this disease. So they should be honored to and my opinion. All right, let's go ahead and leave you with a clip from the rock city showcase and we will see you next time on inside the markets. Take care. This is the rock city showcase. So of course I have to ask you the question that you probably get asked all the time reporting. I know it's a journalism is comes under fire a lot now in this current political world. What made you want to get into journalism and become a reporters that's something that you wanted to do at a young age, or is that something that you kind of fell in love with later on in life? So I would say that I did fall in love with it later. I originally went to Brockport for media production and I did finish that concentration within the journal as a major. So I always wanted to do more of the video editing and video shooting and all that, and I did pretty much all the video classes and then I did a news internship and I thought I'd be doing it just to try, you know, being a photographer more so in news, but I went around with reporters and shadowed reporters that news for in Buffalo and I loved it and I the thing that I loved is, you know, I didn't fall out of love with shooting and editing, but that's still part of it, so I get to do that, plus I get to do interviewing and reporting and investigating and other things that that I also realized I liked. So it was definitely mid college, closer to the end of college, which is maybe more unusual than other people. But no, that's cool, I get that, because you're right, I think I kind of fell into what I do as well. It wasn't something that I chose what. I'm happy that I'm doing what I do. It's but it's just not it wasn't really the path at first. Did you? Did you? What point did you realize that you were actually decent in front of the camera rather than behind the camera. So yeah, I remember the moment. It was taking Kim Young's media production class, or, sorry, media performance class, taking him young's media performance class. I did the live shot assignment and that was did you take the class? I did, and that you know, let me tell you something, Kayla. I sucked at the life shuts aside. It was terrible at it, and you can ask you could ask him. I did. I did good in the class, but I did terrible at that. Yeah, I think that that that's assignment alone helps people figure out whether they're they want to be in front of the camera or not. And I honestly, I hadn't even thought about it. I just took that class because it was required for forever the journalism major, and I did that and I did the whatever. It was the one minute just talking live shot in front of the camera, just talking about the construction, and I was like this came kind of easy and I liked it and it was you know, it was fun. It gave me like a kind of a rush a little bit and it was cool, and that's kind of when I started dabbling in the on campus TV station. I was already part of the club, but I started dabbling more and on camera, like anchoring for the new show and all that, and that's kind of when it took off. But it was definitely that class and that assignment that made me really consider it, because Kim had said it, but I was like no, I never...

...really thought about that. Changed my mind. So do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments more questions to inside margins at gmailcom.

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