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Episode · 11 months ago

The Reparations Initiative

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We talk about the plan for reparations, the marijuana legalization process, and mask mandates. Featuring music by M Doc Diego, Cratona P and WoodsheIM.

Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. Hello, welcome to another addition of inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson. Summer is winding down. It's been warm those so you can't really tell about summer's wanting down, but summer has being to wind down and school is going to be starting pretty soon and everyone's getting ready for the back to school push. A few things we want to talk about. So there was a there's going to be a meeting in regards to reparations, and I know that Mayor Lily Warren did have a plan about that, but what's happening with that plan and what is the thought process of reparations? We're going to talk about that in a little bit. And also, obviously covid not going anywhere. Still going to get to to talk about that. School and, as I mentioned, school is returning and it looks like in your state is going to get involved once again and the whole masking process. Will talk about the little bit bar as well. But before we getting to all those topics, let's go ahead and bring in someone who keeps the summer warm. For me it's the minor reporters, patty singer. Hello, Patty, definite. I can't wait till January. Snowshoe cold. Yeah, I'm getting ready. Yeah, I got that. I got the thorn. John's just hanging there waiting to be we worn out on a snowshoe day. So yeah, are you? Are you a winner person? I am. Oh, I mean, I don't like driving in snow, I don't like a lot of that, but I mean I don't think there's any better day than twenty degrees in January with a blue sky and you're out on snowshoes. I don't. I don't think it gets much better. Yes, Hee, I'm a I'm a fault person. I like I like the like the coolness and and the colors of the leaves and all that stuff. So I'm a fall guy. So so, all right. But yeah, you know, I think everyone else hates us because they love summer. But let's go. Let's go ahead and get to our talks. Or so I was discussing, Patty, and I think you and I were talking about it off the air. There was a plan by Maryl Lovely Warren to establish a program for reparations that involved the legalization of marijuana and using the proceeds from that to to divvy out reparations. But Obviously Mayor Lovely Warren is not going to be around for that program to take place and plus we're still kind of we don't really know where we are with this marijuana thing anyway. So what's your thought process on that? Well, let's discuss this a little bit. Well, so, for starters, she had talked about this. I don't know, God the time, I can't keep them more straight anymore, but she had talked about introducing your universe. So basic income, right, I think. Do I want to say Oakland, the Audio lessers you going yet you don't know what you're talking I believe that's all going head universal basic income, and you know it's interesting. I digress for a second. We talk about universal basic income. A couple weeks ago Republicans from the county legislature had a news conference about how they wanted to spend the American rescue plan dollars, which is another round of covid money. So, as I think it's, the county's getting a hundred forty four million, which figures out to a couple hundred dollars a person. So you know, why not get everybody two hundred hours when I give everybody that money, versus pooling it and wanting to do sewage treatment over here, broad band over here and you know, stuff like that. So you know, could that be universal basic income? I don't think covid money's not set up for that. No, so I digress. So she had talked about some program of reparations and universal basic income. I mean, what is that? I'm not quite sure what that looks like. So I'm not quite sure she's a hundred percent of what that would look like. So there's skid to be a listening session via zoom on Tuesday. So the thirty one tomorrow night, tomorrow. All right. So right, so this is, let me skipped the reading the bottom of a news release here. So folks can sign up by going to www dot. I'm going to spell this out. Our O ce. Are You BECOM so sounds like rock reparations universal basic income, or it sounds like abbreviation for that. ROC are. You BECOM meetings events. Hopefully, my New England accent isn't totally for everybody anyway. So you can sign up if you want to speak on that. Otherwise it will be on the cities facebook page, which is facebookcom rock. Are you bi? So's lots of...

...different facebook pages for different things to the city. So anyway, what according to her news release, she is saying that the reparations and universal basic income committee is hosting its first virtual community listening session. Okay, that's at seven o'clock on Tuesday. This is her quote. Reparations and universal basic income is about changing lives and uplifting neighborhoods. Continuing her quote in a news release, this is an exciting opportunity for our residents of potential game changer for families to overcome poverty. Homeownership is the way for residents to overcome poverty and build wealth and we want to exhaust every option that's available to us in order to change outcomes. I encourage the community's participation and helping a shape how poten INTU reparations may look in our city. So it seems like in this she's tying home ownership to the way out of poverty right, which I think is wonderful for somebody who wants to own a home, Yep, but I think we need I think we need some other things because, as you and I know, Matt, homeownership is as much a burden as of as a lessing. Absolutely love my garden of back but you know the roof leaks, of some pump went on and you know there's all. So, and I'm going to digress for a second, for people who do want home ownership, there are numerous programs. Consumer Credit Counseling Service has a program that helps people prepare for that. So there are programs if homeownership, if that's what you want, to help you on that path. But as home ownership the only way out of poverty, I don't know that's that's fair question. I don't know that's a fair question, I think. I think we need education, I think we need jobs, I think we need lots of things, but to tie it to home ownership, it's the way I'm reading this news release to me is very narrow, and I mean home ownership comes with other things. It comes with a good paying job, which comes with a modicum of education, right. I think you've the tires level, some level of accomplishment and educate. Now whether that education is is an apprenticeship program training problem, occasional right now. Yeah, use, no, great. You need some kind of education and some kind of decent paying job to make homeownership viable for upkeep for your own family. It's a package. I agree. I agree. So all right. So, continuing with the news releases, is not her quotes. The reparation subcommittee is seeking the public's input as they explore ways to right the wrongs of decades of injustice and inequities for black and Brown residents. Interested residents can participate www dot rcrubicom meetings events and the exploratory committee is charged with reviewing existing universal basic income and reparation pilots and other communities to understand what life changing programs can be developed in Rochester. The initiative seeks to use potential marijuana tax revenue to close the wealth gap to achieve equity and home ownership. So, as I read this, I mean all the eggs are in the home ownership basket. I mean a home prices right now ridiculous. Now they are terrible. And Monroe County right, howder in's sane. Yeah, it's it's not. I mean I know a house, a woman that I know moved on the nineteen ward. I mean her house was listed for a quarter of a million dollars. Yeah, it's a beautiful house, but how many people do you know can come up with that kind of money? That many? I can't exactly. So I mean houses in in I mean my house was assessed for six figures. was reassessed for that really. So, I mean that's that's crazy. Yeah, so I think if we're looking at reparations and universal basic income, there's the goal of Home Ownership. I don't know enough, what little I know, would say I don't know that that's going to be successful for a large number of people. Yeah, I thought, what else can we do in in and income for? And maybe you can't use this for training, because there are other opportunities for that, you know, for education kind of things. Maybe reparations has to be used for certain types of things, but I don't know. I'm just to get hung up on the home ownership thing. I think is is a narrow focus and was somebody can explain to me how it's not. I think. I think I haven't understand number one. I agree, was just saying, but I think I have an understanding of why, of why home ownership would be a focus. You've ever heard that phrase forty acres at a mule? MMM, I think it...

...goes back to that phrase. Back in the days of slavery, the whole goal was for slaves to actually own land or property right because because slaves were property and they were not up and they were not really allowed to have their own property. So the whole goal was the thought process of reparations back then was forty acres in the mule to have you to be able to own your own land and you have your own property. So homeownership kind of kind of leans towards that thinking process of here you have, you now own your whole your own property, and with your own property that means you have equity, which I get that. But you but what you're saying is absolutely correct, because things are different today than they were back then and the upkeep of a home is very complicated and very expensive. You got to pay the mortgage, you got to pay for the to upkeep the he said that your you got to make sure you're draining the flute, the the water with some palm and the roofs and you got to pay your electric and you got paid. You know when you're right. You have to pay. Some places you don't to pay all your utility. You got to pay every single utility here and including your water and your garbage. When you do with the garbage, you have to pay somebody to your garbage. You are you got to take your garbage. You A dump. It's expensive and it's a lot of work and you can't just like you can't let your lawn just grow you because, especially if you're part of like a homeowners association, you have to have you have to have that kind of maintenance taken care of. So there's a lot going into the upkeep of a home and it can be be expensive. So in order for you to actually maintain at home, you have to have a job in order to keep continually keep your home up to par. And so in order to get a good job, a job good enough to pay for the expenses of a home, you need like, like you said, you need some sort of education. It does not mean, again, I'm going to pick it back up what what you said. Does that mean you have to go to college, you can go to a trade school, vocational type of training, whatever, whatever whatever it is that you do, just you have to obtain a skill set in order you to use that skill set at the job of your choice in order to make the income to have to upkeep and pay for your home. So, while I do understand why there's a tie to the home, because I know that whole four acres of the mule thought process, there is more to it than here, here's a home, good luck. There's a lot more to it than just here's a home, you just just more. You got to do a lot more than that. Right. And also, and I've heard the mayor say a numerous news conferences, that homeownership helps build generational wealth because you have an asset that you that you passed up. Right, I understand all of that. Homeownership also is is, I think, has changed since the S and s when the racial covenants were in place in Rochester, that rite that prohibited people from living in certain certain areas. I understand all of that. I get what she's trying to do, but I don't the way I read this, and if she's listening to this, call me up explain it to me. The Way I'm reading this is was we're putting our eggs in the home ownership basket. Yeah, wow, and maybe people will come up with other suggestions on Tuesday night. What other baskets we can put this in? Yeah, Yep, I it. I know. I know them with you. And if there's going to be home ownership, what is the city and how is the city going to get its partners to rehab homes, to make them to make some existing city homes habitable? Yeah, and I was say I'm a big believer in home ownership in neighborhoods, to stabilized neighborhoods. Huge believer in that percent. So how does the city work to rehab homes and then make them available? I don't lower cost to stabilize. Now there are some programs. Urban Leagues Involved in a program with some new builds bringing in homeowners to stabilizing neighborhoods and also giving, you know, individuals and opportunity stabilizing themselves as well as stabilizing the neighborhoods with homes. That's great for new builds, but what can we do with existing housing stock in the city, you know, to reclaim some of that and the other thing is that somebody may know more about this than I do. I don't know how where a week Evans stands on this. We haven't heard from him since what the primary was? June twenty second. He had a news conference to twenty three. I haven't I don't recall anything since then. And that's what two months yeah, grants. He's not mayor yet. He's not really even mayor elect yet. He's presumptive man correct. He's appears to be the air the mayor are apparent it to this, but he's not in that he's not a down, he's not, you know, in City Hall in that Seat City Hall. He's on council, he's in that chair, but he's not in the mayor's office just yet. But still I don't know that a whole lot of people know where he stands on this. So how much work is going to be done, that's going to have to be...

...handed over and will will there be the same playbook? Don't know. That's a great question. As you know, lik is his own person and I'm sure a lot of his policies are going to be different than what Mary will be. Warrens are so it's not. I'm not saying he's not on board, I just don't know. And so just you know, we have no ideas. We have we have yet to see what it stands on that and I think you're right. I think the old phrase, you know, it's better to teach someone how to fish and and give them a fish kind of kind of comes to my mind with up with this home ownership. It's better to teach somebody how to put themselves in a position to have a home and then and maybe even help them obtain that home then just to say here's a home, good luck, because you know, you know, you don't really know what's gonna Happen. And I'm I'm not saying that that that what that is the intent of the program either. I'm just saying I think it's a lot more complex and just getting someone at home. There's probably a lot more needs to go into that thought process to actually pull people out of poverty. Just just just straight home ownerships not going to be the answer, in my opinion, in my experience with writing about these programs, the Urban League program obviously we have habitat of humanities around for it for great a while to people the individuals who who live in these homes have they have sweat equity. They take classes to learn how to be a homeowner, to how to manage a finance. So it's not like, you know, it's not like a game show where, Hey, you just won the keys to the house right on one, two, three x street. Right, you know, welcome to your house. There is preparation for that. But you know, a lot of stories I've done over the years a lot of people they may start these class and they said, you know what, I don't want to own a house. After I start through this, I get again, I just don't want homeown I understand the route to homeownership, generational wealth. I get all that. For the people that that works for, I think that's wonderful. How will we look at universal basic income and reparations for people who don't want homeownership? Yeah, and some people want to be able to move right that. Some people don't. And you look at you look at younger people and their career pass you know, you and I'm at or my generation particularly, we had, you know, twenty two and twenty five, thirty years in a job. That was the career. People coming out of whatever apprenticeships or whatever education they're finishing now into the workforce. It's maybe what five or six years and so people were more mobile that they may stay in their community. But if they want to be more mobile, do they want a house that those are how well too, how else will we look at this? Is My question. Yep, and and just straight up. Some people don't want I like. I have my brother, for example. He just has no intention of owning a house. He what he likes renting because he doesn't want to have to worry about he knows he can call the landlord to take care of whatever the issue is. He doesn't want to be he doesn't want any he he earns a very good living. He's very capable of pulling a home if he wants to. He just chooses not to because he doesn't want to be in charge of the upkeep of the outside and upkeep of this and bad or whatever. He just wants to be able to come home and everything works and at the sub have something doesn't work, call one person to fix it. So I get it that it's not it's not for everybody. Some of the other people may have other for the other opinions. So I do think that we do have to look at other avenues when it comes to this. Patty, I want to take a break, but I want to ask you a question. We you mentioned that the mayor did plan to use maybe finances from Mayor Juana to put towards this reparations program but what's going on with Bar Juana in general here in New York? Stated? Well, I we have a new governor. Yeah, so you know who has been worried about covid yeah, which will get to. So I haven't heard a lot about marijuana. Mean it's I mean that's a process, says of how are you gonna License? Where you going to put things? How you're going to license? To me, there's a whole process for that and plus a fact how much money is really going to be in that? My my concern about that is that legal marijuana will be so expensive that there will continue to be a robust black but illegal trade for it. So that's my concern and many levels, if there continues to be a robust illegal market for it. I'm concerned for several reasons, one of which is lose in the tax money. You continue to put people at risk physical their health, risk their physical health because it's a drug trade is not a great business, to say the least. Personal Safety, right, I mean, and for if you, if you were...

...buying street weed, you don't know what's in it. have no idea what's that knows in a lot of drugs these days, and so you don't know what you're what you're getting. Yeah, yeah, Yep, I think again. I am Mr or Mrs or whatever listener you are. I'm not here to to talk about your choices that you make in life and whatever you choose to use as your business, not mine. So I'm not telling you what you can and can't do, but I think when you when you okay, so it's legal right at this point in time. I'm it's legal, but it's not legal to buy really right now. So you can it's it's legal. Wink, wink. I mean there's you know they're right. Yeah, but it's we to but you can't go to your corner store. That's that's kind that's kind of like we'd like. You can go buy a beer, right. There's there's no dispensaries right at this point in time for marijuana. You still have to go to someone to get it who may have a tool may have a tape, obtained it illegally anyways, right, other than if you have a medical marijuana God, there you go. Thank you. Yes, so, yeah, yes, so, it's still kind of black market marijuana at this time, even though it's legal, as you're right, criminalized. There we go. That's a very, very good way to say I mean. So, yeah, there was still some some problems. It's and I'll be honest with you, Matt, I find against just me. It just sounds to me exploit of that we will put a lot of dispensaries in disadvantage. What's that code word for Black and Latinas? That code word for black and which you know, neighborhoods, you're right, where where they're already maybe illegal drug trade going on, and aren't we going to be exploiting people who already live in neighborhoods where it's hard to get healthy food and it's hard to have play outside and areas that are health deserts, and put dispensaries there to then have the money to use to lift up those neighborhoods, when we even know how much money we're going to get. I just I don't want people to be to continue to be exploited by by drugs as they have been punished by drugs. Yeah, right now, I mean valid vela concern. I kind of still sit where I sat before when they announced that it was going to be legalized, as I'm kind of the well, let's see what happens kind of because there's argument, in my opinions, argument for bad and his argument for good. Sort of. I guess I don't know enough about the good to see if it's likely going to benefit. I want to see if it does, and if it does, then great, you know, I even though I'm not a person who partakes in marijuana use. But if it's somehow makes crime lesson and and there's a way for us to actually see some sort of financial game by it, then okay. But right as a sits right now, nothing has been moved in that direction. So I don't I don't have anything to base it on yet. So I'm still to wait and see mode if it works, great at not there maybe we should take a different approach this kind of it's kind of how I'm at right now. I don't know. Again, alcohol is legal, cigarettes are legal. Those aren't necessarily healthy things either. I don't know if that. I'm sure both don't help the community whatsoever. I don't. As far as health, I don't think the money goes anywhere. Greats for I know the crap yours industries all different thing, but but you're basic, like you know big brand name alcoholic dispensaries. They don't. They don't really help the Comun do you whatsoever. So I don't know what to see. I guess that's that's kind of that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah, no, I just I just think there's a lot of questions to be asked. There is there are people. You should running out before we go totally embrace this. And and again, I guess I wonder why do we turn to drugs? Drugs, but you know, I don't, don't, don't, don't. The casinos have to now when they advertise, they have to put the gamblers anonymous line. Yeah, and so you know that. Will there be for this? Will the dispensaries have to put the Office of alcohol and Substance Abuse Services Number on everything, which seems to me to be kind of counter not counterproductive, but there seems to be an irony and that high come use our product. Oh, if you have a problem yeah, we're giving you the disclaimer. Call these people, just like on the back of cigarettes, right, they usually have the heart of general's warning and all they always do it. And you know, and then some of someone could argue. Well, you know, on a you know, you go by steak in the grocery store, they don't say call your cardiologist. I mean, you know, I guess all of this. It's just I just don't want US thinking that the way we...

...can get extra revenue to hope to potentially solve a problem is by going down the vice road. Yeah, no, I'm with you any time. Listen, I'm going to be bobby bluntly honest here. Anytime someone says, Hey, gambling and drugs is going to save our community, that doesn't sound great. That I so I get why there's some negative speculation and connotation on those. I get it. I understand and my would not be my first choice. When you talk about getting your families and and you know black and Brown families out of poverty, poverty, the first thing that comes to my mind is not gambling and drugs. That's not usually what that the way to pull people out of bad situations. But again, I know people who use marijuana. are going to use marijuana anyways. So I don't know if this is going to help them do it in the legal fashion and stay out of trouble, or if this is just going to make it easier and and worse for them. I don't know yet, I guess so we'll go and you. And you also need to keep young people away from the substances until they're old enough to make right their own decisions. So that has to be factor to the equation as well. I get you. I'm with your Patty. It's again, Madd it's not. It's not pretty at all, let's put it that way. That pretty at all. All right, let's go ahead and take that break, Patty. When we come back we will talk a little bit about the whole man dating a mask and schools and and who is making decisions now on that. We'll talk about that in a minute. This is inside the margins. Will right back. Welcome back to inside the margins. Okay, Patty. So looks like the tune of a song that we heard has been changed. And so we've been hearing for a while from the governor, who is now no longer governor Cuomo, that the state was not going to be regulating masks ory like that. That was going to be left up to local government for the schools and all that stuff. Right. So that was kind of how it was. So things have changed since then. Obviously, Governor Cuomo is no longer our governor. We now have Cathy Hokel and it looks like the state is now back in that that position of making that Shit, that decision. So looks like New York State is poised to or already made decision to mandate masks in schools. So what's going on with that, Patty? Well, I think I think that the state public the State Department of Health, should do what a State Department of Health does and make decisions for the public health. Okay, and so I think this is a decision for the public health. Is and I read, and it may have been a letter to the editor, it's some somewhere along the line that I read someplace saying that this is not it, this isn't political, this is this is public health. Right, right, public health should not be politicized. That it has been is too bad. Yeah, and that public health is always photoside people. Oh, they shouldn't be flow right in the water or there should you know? Yeah, but it this is this is public health. This affects everybody to some degree. This is not you know, I'm not going to go buy marijuana so that the dispensary is here. I don't like it, but I'm not going to go buy it. You know, I don't want to smell it. That's, you know, my sense on it. But I I can try to avoid I can try to avoid it. I don't know that I can avoid the person who may or may not have be carrying a communical disease. Yes, good point. So I think public health has to act with the information that it has, the best information at the time, and act in the public's best interest. And if that is mandating masks in schools, that is mandating masks and schools. Yep, I agree with you. We've obviously, if you've listened to this show previously, you prey, you have a pretty good idea on where patty and I stand on this. We both are for, you know, getting you getting back to and wearing masks and indoor places. I think we both believe that's very smart and safe everyone, and I'm I have no issue with the mandate of masks. What's over, because, number one, the majority of students who are under twelve years old, actually all the students are under tolveys, little cat get back to anyways. So this the best thing to keep them safe and everyone safe, I because it's where the bath the only thing I did have a slight issue with is it's always last minute, it seems you know what I mean. It seems like there's there's always a kind of back and forth and back and forth then last minute, when things are leading one way, things change the other way. So I can get I can understand the frustration of some schools on that. It would be nice of the stay. So yeah, we're planning to make sure that we're going to make these calls and we're still going to be in charge of that from the get go. That I'd been great not give the local governments that the idea that...

...they're they're going to make the call and there the last minute kind of change. Yet I understand the frustration on that part. Well, I mean we've had a kind of the leaders of New York have been distracted. It's very night and we should this great has been distracted for a while. Very well. So, you know, perhaps putting it on local level was a way to okay, we've got our distractions here. We let's shift it off. But now that they're a distraction has been removed from Albany, they can focus on what is in, what is in the public hell. I but I also think, okay, so if you leave it to the counties or municipal say, you leave it say and then say a county or to decide that municipalities can do it. MMM. So is your mandate going to be different from Monroda Livingston County? Remember, some people who live in Monroe County may work and that's very reason county and their kids go to school in Monroe County. Yeah, right, I'm making this up. So you should say you live in Henrietta and you teach over the line and Wivingston County, but your kids go to, you know, yeah, this the schools in Monroe County. What if it got even more Pars than that? And what if in the county left it up to the school district? So, again making this up as an example, sator penfield decided one thing and fairport decided something else and webster decided a third thing. And again, all these these are close community. So you're going to have some interchange, like somebody may work in one district in their kids may go to school and another. You don't know, right, right, you know. So I just think we for consistency sake, we need to know what is going on. Yep, no, again, I want to make sure I'm clear. I don't I am not against the decision whatsoever, not even a little bit. I think it's I think it's the right call. The I guess we always say is like, I get, I get how if you were planning on okay, so it's in our parts that this is our plan, that's what we're going to do and then all of a sudden you're actually know, you're not. There's not your call, it's our call. Now. I can get why you would be frustrated on that. Yeah, yeah, near right. And they and there may have been some plans that they had that, but I don't think we can in New York has what sixty two counties? Yes, I don't think we can have potentially sixty two plans. Right, right, though, I'll with you on that. I have a hund percent undercent about with you on that. But yeah, I no, no, I'm definitely I'm not against the mathmant. It's especially right now where we're talking about boosters and I know two of the three major vaccinations have now been given the go ahead of boosters. Now, you know, we're still kind of developing that process. We're still true, we're still working on getting people younger than twelve vaccinated. There's a lot that we're still working on. So while that's working at while that's all being worked on, we're going into the cold season now, as we mention at the beginning of the show. Right, summers is going to be anything. Yeah, that's so. People are going to be indoors a lot more breathing the same error. Well, and you know that in that building. I think this is the right move. You're if you're not, if you're going to be, if you're if you're going to jam pack the schools, if you're not going to do the thing like we talked about last week, I believe, how the schools were, what's the word I'm looking for, Patty? Where they were had highrand hybrid or cohorts. You had half going, thank you, Monday, Tuesday, half going Thursday, Friday and nobody on Wednesday. Right. So you you have a potentially all enrollees in the building at the same time. Right, right, so right. And as it stands right now, most schools aren't doing the hybrid or in thing that everyone's going to be in schools. So if you're going to have schools at capacity, people probably not sitting at six feet apart. They're going to be a much closer proximity to each other. Masking is definitely the way we should go because again, we're we're going to see a lot less outdorectivities in the schools very soon. HMM. So I don't see why you wouldn't want to protect your children who can't, especially the ones under tolve who can't get back to there at all. But I think this is the right call. So hopefully, and I know some local school districts and officials aren't going to look at that way, but hopefully, for the most part, people look at it that way and see that that's why this decisions being made, because it is to me it's the right call. However, like I said, I get if you're like man, I already had a plan of action what we're going to do now, and that's not our plan. But if your plan was demandate mask anyways, then shouldn't be that make a video in any regards, in my opinion. Well, and people have said for a year that they've had to adjust, right, so use this is another adjustment. I don't think it means you scrap your plan. I think that when the state, if the these numbers go down in the state, says okay, we're at a point now where districts can can or counties or districts can go to their plans. You've got your plan already. I don't think it's been wasted effort. But again, I wasn't involved in making one, so I can't say that for sure. I know at the the college, the college level, I'm still finishing up a master's degree at Brockport and I know...

...that they are pretty much everyone's required to be vaccinated. If if you're not vaccinated, you have to submit yourself to weekly testing. If you are vaccinate that you still have to be tested monthly now. So everyone's got to be tested to actually the acting people tested once a month. On Vac's people have to be texted tested weekly. If you are going to live on campus, vaccination is required. You cannot live on you cannot live in the on campus without being back to it. So that's how it is, I think. I think that's the sunny. I think that's for all. Studio. I don't finish. Yeah, I don't think the so what? What type of tests? A rapid test of its yeah, as if they do the PCO. Yes, Yep, that's the the saliva rapid test is the one that undern what are yet, although quick swab. Right, okay, that's correct. All Right, okay. So, so it's not the it's not the intrusive, because I've had the real one to the one where the thing touches. Yeah, that's unpleasant. It's very much pleasant. Yeah, I had to actually do that when we tested my little girls. I went through one of the drive through ones and they make you, the parent, do it to your own child. Oh my God, that was the worst thing ever. Got My little girl screaming as I'm, you know, touching her brain with this thing. Yeah, yeah, those, those are definitely impleasant. Yeah, well, yeah, you don't have you don't do those. This the quick, the quick SLIVEA smop thing. So okay, but yeah, it's I. So, I know, Sunny's sunny. It was already planning. I think they were only planing you that regardless. Before they were kind of mandating stuff. So, yeah, I think this is the right thing to do if you want to have a somewhat normal school years. Not going to be as normal as we wanted to be. However, it will be better than what we had last year and look at it that way. Agreed. Hopefully, hopefully, we'll see. We'll see you and you're right, we'll see what's happening with these numbers if we can get a hold, I think, with the last and I could be wrong, I think that will check this. So I mean I shouldn't even say anything, but I think the numbers were a little better. I don't know, I but I could be wrong on that, but they're still not great and we have to get a hold on this and hopefully, with these boosters coming out and and and the fact that we're mandating these masks, maybe I'll help us get ahold of the of the clamming numbers in the cold cases and transmissions. Well, I yeah, I mean it was because said last summer they were they were in the double digits. Now they're in the triple digits, and then we went into the fall and and and had the increase. So if we're here now, what's going to happen? That I you know, I don't know. Yeah, and I know the hospitals were beginning to feel it too. Yeah. So, yeah, we're not going in the director. We want to go and we got to do what we have to do to make sure that we don't get to a place, you know, where everyone's having a problem. All right, you look at the time of yeah, Patty, I think we actually we are going to have to wrap it up, which is, Oh my God, I know. But before we go, I want to make sure to mention that all the cool stuff that we talked about usually can be found in the minority reporter. They cover everything in a community, all the local stuff that's that's important to you, what's happening in communities, the meetings that are happening, all that stuff. You can find all of that in the minority reporter. And how do you get there? Well, go to minority reporter dotnet again, that's minority reporter Dotnet to get all those stories that are, you know, about your community that's important to you. Also, you have the option to subscribe to the minority reporter. You can get the digital or the hard copy version, whichever one is better for you. I am a subscriber. 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