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Episode 19 · 2 years ago

Reopening Rochester

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Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. Hello once again and welcome to another edition of inside the margins, and I'm your host, Matt Wilson. Let's talk about again. We are making preparations, it seems, to start to open up different aspects of business and we'll talk a little bit more about what that name tail. It also physical dissancing. But first someone who I actually Miss Their physical company. It's minority reporters, beatty singer. Hello, Patty, Hey, hi, I know what but never that. We've had six feet in the studio. That's true. Mikes and consoles and everything else, no one does. A very good point. That's true. If you're the other side of the booth, you've got the window. So yeah, I mean those things are pretty premtically sealed. Good Point. Understand what the situation is. So we are we're still zooming. So we will start off with the minority reporters news from the week. The NATOIE shepherd seeks appointment to the Monroe County Board of elections. NATOIE shepherd intends to seek the appointment as the Democratic Commissioner to the Monroe County Board of elections and a letter two members of the Monroe County Democratic Committee. Shepherd wrote that quote upholding the sanctity of voters rights to be civically engaged to choose their elected representatives, because a top priority of mine ult to believe in creating an implementing policies or justified law and rooted in ethics. Shepherd's letter comes several days after State Supreme Court Justice J Scott, for the Recie, dismissed her lawsuit against the board of elections over challenges to her signature petition for the one who do thirty seven percently district primary. Shepherd said her interest in the appointment to the board of elections is not a result of the board having invalidated enough signatures. I'm petitions to knock her off the ballot. Bike parade says happy birthday and thank you to a nurse. A bike ride to say happy birthday also sent a message of thanks to healthcare workers and showed that friends can peddle together and still keep a proper distance from each other. To start quike month in May and to wish her niece, Caleb Brown, a happy birthday. After the nurse finished a twelve hour shift a strong memorial hospital, Karen Rodgers organized a bike parade down critain and boulevard on May second. Roger said that we are advocating for biking even in the pandemic. Wider's got some lessons about physical distancing and how to maintain that space while they were biking in safe bike lanes. And some national news. COVID nineteen in America the fire. This time Wilmur J Leon, the third rights that America cannot advance democracy around the world when it weaponizes the cause of the current global pandemic, covid nineteen. He asked how can a country that weaponizes a global pandemic be seen as, quote, Shining City upon a hill? It is not. It is immoral, if not criminal, for us to increase sanctions through its maximum pressure campaigns against countries such as Venezuela and Iran. America's maximum pressure is negatively impacting the flow of food, personal protective equipment, medicine and other supplies into other countries, making it more difficult for their governments to fight the pandemic. Eugene Cornelius Junior writes that without more help, black owned businesses might not survive the pandemic. He writes that black communities in the United States not only represent a disproportionate share of casualties from coronavirus, but also been deeply affected by the economic impact of...

...the disease. Long Standing Racial Discrimination and economic and housing policy is increased black people's risk for exposure to the virus, as well as the resulting financial crisis. The cover story this week is the city is to cut jobs as covid nineteen stressed stresses the budget. The city also fills one vacancy. Hours after many lovely warrant had announced job reductions because of covid nineteen, the city released a statement confirming the recent addition of an employee. See Face Archie, who's dismissal as chief diversity officer by the College at Brockport in January, but the student protests and an examination of diversity efforts on that campus, was hired as the city's chief equity officer. According to a news release from the city, Rochester is mandated by state and federal law to have a manager oversee its equal employment, opportunity and affirmative action programs. are she's hiring fills this role after his predecessor accepted a promotion. And other news about diversity of an update from brockport President Mcpherson, says that all policies will support equity, diversion and inclusion. Even though the campus is empty because of covid nineteen, work to improve inclusion continues. In an email to the college community with fearsome route that Brockport is committed to suddes's plan for equity, versity and inclusion, and she listed what is being done in several areas, including receiving support from the student system, vamping the college's biased reporting mechanism, implementing trainings, setting placement goals and also holding additional community conversations in opinions, E. F. A. Williams rights, looking for answers. The coronavirus that has a sheltering in places taken some through many different emotions, some who've used this time to do positive things and carry a hope and good feelings about what they've been able to do. She encourages people to try look on the bright side of what is happening in your life. She several, several times a day, will turn to prayer for someone or something and that makes her immediately feel better. And that, even though when she is out and she has on her masking gloves, when she sees someone passing with her on the street, she writes, I bomb my head each time I come near anyone just to let them know I see them and I acknowledge their humanity. Michael Vaughan writing about something to think about. Some tough decisions in the RCSD with the sudden departure of Superintendent Terry Day, or some tough decisions that the school district in the city are going to have to make day. At least. From everything that we knew was a great candidate and someone that had demonstrated working in a large school district and turning it around well On rights, that dad had the skill set that was desperately needed in the RCS D. However, that may have been in doubt, that may have been his downfall, that he had what was needed that. Thank you, Patty, and just a reminder folks that if you want to get a full versions of the headline news stories that you just heard, you can go to the minority reporter Dotnet and you can find all the full versions there as well. You can also you can subscribe to the minority reporter on the site as well, if you want to get a subscription, which I sincerely hope you do. I do that and it's always a great news source for me. Also, you can go to our website at inside the margins RADIOCOM. There's a link to the minority reporter on that site and also you can listen to all of our past episodes on inside the margins Radiocom as well as you can find all of the replays on I heartcom and also wherever you get your podcasts. And also, if you do have any information or you want to ask questions or just have suggestions for the minority reporter, you can email editor at minority reporter Dotnet, and you can also reach out to us as well on inside the margins RADIOCOM. All right, let's go ahead and...

...take a quick break. We will be right back. This is inside the margins. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins we would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom. Welcome back to inside the margins that I'm still joined with petty singer from the minority reporter. All right, Patty, so let's go ahead and talk about our topic today. We were talking before we got on air about how people are beginning to make preparations to return to work. I don't want to say normalcy, because I don't I think we, you and I both realize that even though we are returning to work, there's going to be nothing normal about it. There's gonna be a lot of changes as far as trying to stay physically distant from one another to remain safe. But I do know that that organizations are making preparations to begin to reopen and obviously that's much needed to restimulate our economy. So Bum Duffy, who is the head of the Chamber of Commerce for Greater Rochesters. Also, people know the MOEUTENANT governor, please Jeeves, the pre's right. Yep, that's like you would believe. He's a task force that the governor has convened. That is that is looking at regionalization. Know how different regions can open, and Duffy says if this isn't, they're just collecting information giving it to the governor. It's not by committee, it's just what's happening, tell us, sort of forwarding it along. So one of the things that he said is that business is thinking about reopening need to have a plan long before they get to go ahead to reopen. How will you keep people physically distant? How will you clean? How will you protect staff as well as customers? Right, all those things that have to be thought of. So if someone so may fifteen is coming up quickly. Now we look a couple days it's run around corner. Are you right now? So we that's that's coming up quickly. So the possibily that after that some places could reopen. So what's going to happen is so may fifteen, the governor will look at what situation is. There may be some regions that open. My guests would be a week from today, kind of thing. Right. So then, so the COVID has where they're saying it's a two weeek incubation period in Monroe County. They are here. We are ramping up sort of selfreport. There's this web page rock covid Dot Org, ROC COO v Idtorg, where you can go on and register your symptoms or not your symptoms. How are you feeling today? Find whatever, go body business. You say you have a sort of throwat or headache. You get a couple more questions and then you go about your business. About a minute, minute and a half to to do this. You get an email reminder every day. The reason they want to do that is to identify hot spots. So they say that the look at the data. COMMY health look at the data, they'll see that all. Maybe there's some trending areas here. What's going on to note some education, maybe do some testing in areas to see. My sense of this is is, as we think about reopening, need to monitor where hot spots are. Right. Some of my questions about this are okay, the hot spots we know. If you look at Dashboard Dot Monroe County, Dot Gog, you can see the red areas. You know where the kind of the the heat map is of where a lot of cases are crescent area of the city for...

...reasons. We've talked about health disparities and things like that. So I guess my question is if people from that area do or don't join this selfreported survey, what does that say about that area? If other areas? I'm going to pick, I'm going to just say north Greece, for lack of a better place. So people in North Greece don't do say they don't participate as much as someone in so the opposite of that of a painfield. Okay, so so your north creation got painfield. Lots of people in painfield participating. Oh, looks like there's a lot of stuff going on in Penfield. Doesn't look like there's much going on in north Greece. Well, people from Penfield want to go shopping both Greece and and is there really a lot going on in Penfield and nothing in yourth prese or just because no one in grease is filling it out? So everything's happening in Painfield or the all of a sudden? Well, cases in the city you really down. Well, because we're tracking it this way and not a lot of people in the city, whether they live on Park Avenue or Clifford Avenue, want a lot on to this and fill something up. Right, whenever you have selfreport, you people self report for a reason. Right, exactly don't self report for a reason that has to be taking a desiderate I think it's I think it's important try to get as much data as you can, learn as much as you can. I am all for that, but I think there's a there's a little asterisk that comes at the bottom of this data. No, I totally agree with you. It's funny. When you talked about self selfreporting. The thing that I think about is back in the old days when if you were trick or treating for Halloween and they use sleep that bowl of candy out front that you know the people that weren't actually in the houses, and they would say just take one. So they would give you, they would they would just trust you to take one. And yes, some kids would just take one candy, but you know for a fact that some kids were taking handfuls or even dumping the entire bowl in their and their basket. And that's sort of the same thing with the self reporting. Some people will do it accurately and some people are probably not going to. So you're absolutely right on that. You know, it's funny. I was talking so my brother lives in in Las Vegas and he told me before everything closed down before the before covid was like in full, I guess, full on mode there, that some of the casinos we're doing things where they like taking your temperature before you could even enter the casino. That's one of the most things that's interesting me because I I was sent out a survey. I have just like you, I do multiple things for a living, and one of the places where I work with their work at they're doing a survey about what would make you comfortable about returning back to the workplace. Now I already I already have to go there because I because they can. They need what I need, what I do. But one of the things, one of the options was take your temperature or have have temperature checks in order to enter the building. Do you think that's something that may that may happen, that people actually might actually require you to to be to have your temperator taking before you can enter a building? So I a regular blood donor and you're saying answer my question. Tell me a story. I go to give blood that one of the centers and they take your temperature when you come in. When you read my temperature at ninety five point one. So then when I go through the process, whatever take my temperature again and it's seven ninety nine. Yeah, something like that. Right, temperture ninety five point one it shouldn't you be tending the hospital? You know,...

...what is that going to say? Plus, we have we've been reading till our eyes are our bloodshot about asymptomatic. Yeah, so you don't have a temperature today, but you're a symptomatic and you sneeze. I don't know how long it was some place or whatever. Right, you know, I don't know. I'm the shrugging silence. He said definitely don't want on radio it. That's all right, I saw I could see it. I understand what you were doing. Sorry about that. I am not a big goout person. Right, Hey, I just don't. I don't go out too restaurants very often. I don't go to clubs, the activities. I like to do a more kind of outdoors. You, sir, not a big you know, I'm not a big person. Oh, when the museum's reopen in the restaurants were opening, going to go? I didn't go before, so I'm not the right person to ask. You got to go now. I am planning a trip in September. If the tour company says the trip is a go, I'm going. Yeah, waving. I'm leaving it up to that. They are responsible for the people they take on on their tours. If they're going, I'm going because what you know, we're going to do sit around forever. In Way, I'm going to take a calculated risk. I'm a healthy person with no known underlying conditions. Yep, why why not go enjoy something I've been looking forward to for six or eight or ten months, you know, prior to the trip? Is that different from going out to a restaurant or Friday night? You know, I don't know. Again, you're going to have to make that decision for you, the person who likes to go out for Friday night fish fries, I don't you know, or Saturday night at you know, at the club or or at the coffee shop, wherever you want to go. That's going to has to be your decision. Yep, I think what you said actually is a lot deeper than actually came across, because I think that's really what it's going to come down to you. It's going to come down to how comfortable people are reassuming are reasserting themselves back into a normal lifestyle. You're right, I have a I have a trip plan in August and so far the event that we're going to in August has not been canceled. Yet they still have not cancel it and they keep say they keep setting a femail saying it's still on. So if you if you want to come, you come, and I have every intention in going. I'm not saying that that's what everyone should do. I'm not saying everyone should go travel and go do what they need to do, but it's I think. I think it's going to be up to the individual when it comes down to it. Overall, when things finally do become begin to open. Yes, I do think that. Well, I don't think we know there's any regulations. There's going to be things in place to make it as safe as possible, according to the government standards at least. There will be testings, there will be social distancing, they will be masked distributions, all that stuffs going to happen, but what it really comes down to is how comfortable is the person going to be? You can open up a club or a bar or a restaurant, but if people are too afraid to go, it doesn't matter if you're open or not. And I think that's and I think that's what it's going to come down to, in my opinion. Well, you know, it's interesting because so this hit here the weekend, the weekend before St Patrick's Day, right to news conferences. There was one that Saturday in which actually think there was one earlier in the week that they said the St Patrick's Day cready be postponed, and then there was one, I believe, on the fourteenth, and then there was one on the...

...fifteen about schools. And but from what I had been told by some people who were out at bars, the bars were crowded that weekend before St Patrick's Day, and so we already knew this was this was floating around in the air. Who's going to be happening here? There were preparations being made to to limit the spread in the community and yet lots of people chose to go to a bar. If you found those same people and ask them, Hey, were you here on March fourteen and now you are you going to come back on June first, what would they say, knowing what they know two or three months later? But I don't know that right, right exactly, and that's the thing. It's I do think people's some so you so what you're saying is accurate. Some people who weren't as concerned about it at that point have become more concerned about it now, and and some people who were concerned about it at that point are now less concerned about it now. Each individual is completely different and everyone's mind works differently, obviously. So there are people who, at this very moment, are pounding the table saying please, open everything up, I'm really get back to life, and there are some people obviously saying no, we need, we still need to take every single precaution that needs to be taken. So will it be when, when the doors open? Is it going to be like the floodgates? Is it going to be like a damn being burst open in the water is flooding the streets? I don't think so. I don't obviously I don't know, but I do think that there are people who are really, really ready to get out there and get back to some sort of normalcy. So I do think you're going to see, I don't know, probably half. That's what again, I these are I don't have any stats or scientifical evidence in front of me. I'm just speaking guests here. I guess this here. So I don't want anyone to email me or call me later and say hey, matt, your numbers are off. I'm not using members this is me just speculating the headline news that petty gives that first are the fact based news. This is now the opinion port of this show. Lais and Gentle Adam Bellow and Dr Mendos at talk about is you know we're masks, stay physically distant because you are helping other people, which basically comes down to what is a society is it? Is it only about me? I don't want to wear a mask, I want to go to a bar, or is it about what we do as a collective, and do we look out for other people, and do do I sacrifice to potentially help somebody else that I may never know if my sacrifice worked, you know, help that person or not? The thing, the hard thing about one of the hard things about this now is basically we're in a kind of a prevention mindset. If you don't know, you can't measure what doesn't happen. Right pleasure, what you've prevented. So by me wearing a mask when I go for walk around my neighborhood. And even if I pass somebody on the sidewalk, does that protect them or does me not wearing a mask when I walk in my neighborhood, I walk by myself and I pass somebody, expose them or me? I don't know. I'm passing somebody so quickly. Does it really to what you think is the universe that's going to have that droplet, you know, somehow get in my mouth, up my nose, in the mouth? I don't know the risk I'm willing to take when I walk by myself to not wear a mask. If I find myself around, I have a band and in my pocket in here. You know I'll do that. But if I and I pass somebody on the sidewalk, Hollo, Hollo, by them right already. So someone can...

...say, Oh, whow aren't you being selfish doing it? She wearing a mask when you're walking by yourself? Well, what what our officials say is when you are out and you can't maintain six feet of distance. Right, Yep, I'm I think you. That's where you and I were in the same page there. If I'm out in about on the street, which I I'm trying to do by the way drinking sproken water. I'm trying to get myself back on the health thank you. But yes, when I am when I am taking a walk, I have my mask in my pocket or in my sweatshirt or whatever. And if it's just one person I'm walking by, I'm not going to I'm not going to din my mask real quick so I can walk and quickly walk by this person. If you're if I'm coming into a group of people, I will put my mask on, but if it's just one person maybe or even two, that I'm going to quickly walk by, I'm not like, Oh goodness, we put my mask on, but it get like you said, everyone's different. Every every everyone feels differently. I don't think that you should be you should just ignore everything out there. You should definitely be precautious and I think, I think there's there's all they're always is going to be that healthy battle inside your mind, maybe maybe unhealthy at times, where, yes, you're going to all you're going to think about the safety of yourself and the safety of others, but also there's that part of you that misses that, that intimacy of being with other people and not I'm not talking about like the bars per se or restaurant, but just embracing people that your your circle, your friends, your family, people are I'm not I know people are missing that and they're they're probably dying to get back to that where I was just talking to somebody the other day where they have a friend in the hospital and the only person in the hospital that's allowed to see there that person, is that as their friend's wife. No one else is allowed, brothers, sisters, anyone. Things like that, I can understand. Are Be going to get tough where you can't you can't go to your loved ones. I think that's the hardest part for people. I some people, yes, some people are probably going crazy because I can't get a haircut or they can't get the nails done. But but I think the more the things are, deeper are the are the that those that physical connection with your loved ones. If I think that's what people are missing the most and that and that's true. So I was, you know, hoping that that that this funeral that I would have attended, were I able to go, would be streamed so I could at least be there. I don't live in proximity to the to this family. My sister does, and I know that she was thinking, well, they probably won't have, probably can't have gathered at the house. Well, I guess I would think, you know, have two or three people come over and then the next day have another couple people come over. That would be that would be my sense, because we can't, we can't lose our humanity, which is you are working the segways well, which brings us to words matter. So I would urge people to not use the phrase social distancing and instead use the phrase physical distancing. Mental health practitioners are starting to use that phrase, Monroe County Public Health Commissioner is using that phrase and I think if more people talk about physical distancing we can still keep these these emotional connections, just from a little bit farther apart. Because, as as Documentos, it says, it's the physical distance that you want us to you don't want a social distance from people, right, absolutely, they never want to be socially distant from people. Now especially, you don't want to be socially distant from them, but you need to keep some kind of parimeter around you. That's different. A physical distance is not should not be a social distance, and the mistake I think was made early...

...on was the social distance was the phrase out there. It caught on and now people may have internalized to that. Well, I can't be close to somebody, but no, in a proximity way you can't be. But you probably need to be closer to people now than you ever have, now more than every right. Totally agree with that. Last thing I want to say is everyone who's listening, just hanging there. We don't they're still there are still a lot of unknowns out there. We still don't know exactly when the doors open back to your normal life. And even when the doors do open back to your normal life, it's going to take allow for your life to be normal anyways. It's not going to be like lights are on, mask are off, doors are ope. It's going to be a slow process to get back to where we once were. But hanging there. You everyone, including myself and Patty. We've lasted this long, right, if we've been doing this for a while now, if you can hang on a little bit longer, we'll get through this together and we can we can start enjoying each other's company. Just hang in there. That's kind of my thought processing. One ever say we talked about getting back. What is it you want to get back to? I mean, I think this is an opportunity. Most major religions have a period of reflective time. If the Christians it's lent in Judaism, it's the period between rusher showing and Kippor and actually the month leading up to that, where you think about Whoa we asked all the existential questions. Where am I? What am I doing? Where do I want to go? If you choose to be introspective and that's something that you're comfortable doing, maybe used as use as things ramp up. But what do I really want to go back to? What can what? What's maybe gone okay during this time that I'd like to keep up with? Maybe nothing, and you can can't wait, but I guess I would just offer just is there one thing that this time has taught you that wasn't horrible, and is that something that could possibly be the be brought into your into your life on a more regular basis to this give you the time to think about something that is yep, nope, I agree at that. I think at the very least. I think at the very least, Patty, people have learned how important it is to wash your hands. I'm sorry if you see the look I'm getting from her right now. Next time, when we open up and you're in the bar and you've used the facilities, you listen to how much running water there is, right and then come back and tell me if people will want to. That's a very good point. You're being you're probably right that the washing Hands Syndrome will probably last twenty five minutes after this is over. All right. Thank you so much, Pattie again, as usual. I always appreciate it. Don't forget, folks, you can find all the stories that work toot that were brought to us during the helpline news at the minority reporter Dotnet. And, like I said, it did. One of the things that I do think as been made more it's more aware people now, is the importance of supporting your local establishments, your local eateries, your local you know, any businesses, and local journalism is just as important. So support local journalism as well. If you have the means to subscribe, please do. It's a great it's a great paper and I enjoy reading it and I believe that you will too. So go ahead and subscribe if you get a chance to at least at least visit. Just go to minority product and that...

...check out the paper yourself. All right, Patty, thanks again as usual. We always appreciate your time. All right, and coming up after the break, we're going to skip the clip from roxody showcase. I just got some final thoughts that I want to give and we'll let you be on your way. This is inside the margins. Will be right back. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom. Welcome back to inside the margins. Okay, usually at this point of the show I play a clip from the rock city showcase and kind of give you a sneak peek of who or what is to be expected on that podcast. But I'm doing something different this time because something has been bothering me for the last few days. So I just want to make sure people understand the difference between opinion and fact. Okay, so we all watch programs on television. We all watch probably you. You've all seen a news program you've all seen talk radio. If you you listen to shows like this, you listen to the music music programs. So there's a as a wide variety of different programming out there, and I just want to break down the difference between fact based programming and opinion based programming. So this portion of my show you're listening to right now is opinion base. I'm giving you my opinion about something. Right now, when patty singer starts to show and she gives you the headline news, all the news she gives you from the headline news is fact based news. She does not throw her personal feelings into what she is telling about these headlines of the stories. Now there's a difference there, right because when you watch news or you watch channels like CNN or Fox News or MSNBC, because their news based stations, many folks believe that all programming on these channels is straight up fact based news, when in fact that it's inaccurate. When you have a news broadcaster on just telling you like a person got shot or what the weather was or the stock information, that's all fact based programming. And here's a simple thing that people don't even realize. No matter which channel or station you listen to, whether it's foxy and then MSBC, if you get it from MPR, wherever you're getting your news. The majority time, when you have a journalist or a broadcaster on who's telling you the news, it is fact base. There is usually no biast on either side when they're giving you that straight up news. It's when you start listening to programs from opinion based talk show hosts where you get their perspective of news stories. So they incorporate news in their opinions. We're talking about shows like bill, Mar Sean, Hannity and as Cooper, all of those shows. These are people who do have news knowledge base and they do present news to you, but they also give you their opinions tied into that. I just want to make sure that people understand the difference. And the reason why I wanted to bring this up is because recently people were passing around a few things on facebook and Youtube and they're like, who, this is proof about some sort of conspiracy theory. No, this is a this is an...

...opinion, this is someone's theory. Is this is a con that's why they call a conspiracy, because they're using some evidence to come up to a conclusion of their own. Before you believe anything that you see or read or hear, especially on social media platforms like facebook, like Instagram, like youtube and all the other ones twitter as well, before you take that as fact, especially if there's not coming from like a news station like channel thirteens reporting a fire on Clifford Avenue. That's a that's a fact news statement. But if it's a person who's given you a spin of some story that tells you that it's proving their theory, check the facts yourself. Just make sure you do that. Use multiple sources when you fact check, because you'll find you'll find out there's usually more to that story than meets the either's usually there's usually more than whoever is reporting that story. You know did that. There is to that story. People usually report story is that support their opinion, but sometimes they don't give you the full story. So if you want to know everything about a youtube story that you just just you just saw, instead of saying I knew it and blindly sharing it with all of your friends, why don't you fact check it first? And the reason why I say this also is I'm I am not above doing things like that. I did that once, if probably a few times, and I was called out and I'm glad I was called out because I don't do that anymore. I don't I don't share just random opinion stories anymore because I'm misleading people when I do that, because people are if people are skimmers, people will just briefly read a headline and just take it as a fact, without even thinking about it or researching it. They just say that I knew it and they share it because that story or that headline supports a thought that they already have and and if it's something that supports which you think, you're more likely to share it immediately because that's how you felt anyways. And Look, I knew it. This kind of proves but I thought it. I thought all along. Just research it. That's all I ask is research it, because you'll find out that there's a lot more to that story than meets the eye. And I'm I've been humbled by this because, it I said, it's been a little while now, the few years back, I did it and I got called out. I got called out by a Pertin not because, you know, usually when you get called out by someone who's on the opposite spectrum of which you believe, you'll let either just saying that because they're just mad and blah, blah blah, and then a want of the truth, I got called out by someone who believes the same things that I believe and then like, listen, I understand why you feel that way, but you should check that, because it's not true. And I checked it and he was right. It was not true, and I felt like an idiot because I shared it with all my friends and everybody else. Just check your check your information, check your stories, get the facts. If we if we spend more times spreading factual information instead of what we think or how we feel all the time, and let people decide from themselves after getting facts, that is when we destroy this thing that's called fake news. All right, that's it. I just want to leave you with that thought. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you too, petty singer. Be Sure to visit our website at inside the margins Radiocom if you've missed any of this show or any other shows in the past, you'll find that there, and you could also find links to...

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