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Episode · 2 years ago

Are new Jobs in Greece really new jobs in Rochester?

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We ask if jobs coming to the town of Greece really benifits the City of Rochester. Also, we disccuss the holidays and Covid.

Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. Hello and welcome to another edition of inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson, and looks like our presidency is still up in the air, sort of. We have a clear idea of whose one. It looks like Biden's one. Three hundred and six doctoral votes. So doesn't look like there's a chance that trump's been going to have a chance to overturn that, but he's still trying. But hopefully next few weeks will figure out what's going on with that. Also, covid yes, we're still talking covid. Things are not getting better, and we'll go ahead and discuss that a little further. And also, there are jobs, jobs coming to Greece, but what does that really mean? And we'll also dive into that little bit further. But first, before we get into all of our fun topics of the day, let me introduce someone who always brightens up my day. It's the minority reporters, patty singer. Good afternoon, Patty. Oh, thank you so much, and we wonder what the introductions going to be on IT education. Nothing that clever this time. I'm sorry, he's going to make me cry. I can make me cry just by what he says, and so thank you, Matt. Always, always a pleasure. Of always a pleasure. Let us get right to it because we have a lot to discuss today. So our recent headlines in the minority reporter Rochester City School district students may see Internet issues answered. Local and national collaborators have responded to technology gaps brought on by the pandemic that have affected Rochester students. The city council has confirmed the appointment of the Police Accountability Board Executive Director. The council unanimously confirmed Connor Dwire Reynolds of the nine. Nothing vote was not as lopsided as that Scot would indicate. The rise in Covid nineteen cases, has put Rochester and several Monroe County towns in the yellow zone. We're talking more about that little bit later. Further on Covid, the numbers show why Jordan health needed to be a covid nineteen test site. In County News, Adam bellows budget proposal has full funding of the county department of Diversity, equity and inclusion, and that budget will have to be approved by the Monroe County legislation. In Our National News, Karla Harris carries the past and present into America's future. Black and other voters of color restored democracy in America in the two thousand and twenty presidential election. And in opinion, whereverend Michael Vaughan writes his something to think about. The election is over. Or is it in? George Pain is quoting the Youdore Roosevelt, who said that a great democracy has got to be progressive or it will soon cease to be great. For a democracy. Matt, thank you so much, Patty, as always. And as always, you can get the full versions of the headline news on the minority reporter Dotnet and also, when you go there you will see the option to subscribe to the minority reporter. You have the option to get digital or hard copy. Supporting local journalism is definitely important. If you want to know what's happening in your area. It's good to get the local sources that tell you the stories that are important to your community. So certainly I would advise you to go ahead and subscribe to the minority reporter. Also, minority reporter also always wants to hear your questions, comments, suggestions, ideas for stories. Please reach out to them. You can submit those that information to editor at minority reporter DOTNET. They'll be happy to hear what you have to say. Also, you can send information to us here at the inside the margins radio network, right to myself, at Matt Wilson at inside the margins Radiocom, or also to inside margins at gmailcom. And also, if you missed any episodes in the past that you want to check out, including this one, if you've got it at a little late you want to see what happened before we I start talking now, you can go to our website at inside the margins radiocom and you can also find our episodes on iheartcom or wherever you get your podcast. All right, we will talk covid we will talk jobs and more right after this,...

...right here on inside the margins. All right, welcome back to inside the margins. I'm here with Patty from the minor reporter and Patty. We talk jobs because it's important. A lot of people are struggling right now because of the environment. COVID has had a closure on a lot of jobs and people can't work remotely sometimes. So people are always looking for good news, trying to get themselves back into the workforce, and it looks like Greece was announcing that there's some jobs happening out there, but I think we were kind of talking not on air earlier. What does it really mean? What does that mean that there are jobs opening up there's that really a very positive thing? Is there some sort of you know, as there's as, there are a negative that could be attached to that? Well, so we're on the Amazon Watch in Monroe County. Yep, to go. Amazon came to Henrietta. They announced late last week that Amazon is having what they call a last mile distribution center in Greece on Lexington Avenue. So what that means is that it's the last mile, so the package goes there, from there right to your house right but as we talked about, and is the when our reporter was the first to break the story, there's a huge distribution warehouse. It got approval to be built in gates off Manitoba. Yeah, we talked about that last week. Right. Well, in Grease we're talking about fifty full time and fifty part time jobs. A hundred jobs is really it's important. But the gates distribution center, which they have not yet confirmed, Amazon, that's it's suspected that that's who it is, or another type of national distributor like that. M That facility can hold one two hundred jobs, which is a significant amount of jobs. That is a significant amount of jobs. But the issue becomes so these are in the suburbs, granted. Their entering suburbs can granted. Both locations are close to or on a bus line. But Bill Ry, with the grease supervisor, when he announced this, with Adam bellow and with the with the developer of the property, Rylei, was saying and this is a great day for Greece. What this means is job, jobs, jobs and more jobs for Greece. Well, okay, so my question was, what does this mean for other all these jobs going to just go to grease residents? What about other people, city residents? Right, and it count. Executive Adam Bellow responded that, you know, this is Lexington annue it's an accessible site. There should be people from across our area applying for the jobs. Well, you can apply all you want, all right, you're going to get hired. And these are jobs that pay. Bellow said, these pay fifteen an hour and they have benefits. Those are that's not too bad, right, people who want, you know, the minimum way should be fifteen dollars. These would be in there, you know, in that would be sort of the new minimum way. Fifteen dollars, bus benefits. So we're waiting to hear who exactly is coming into gates and what that site is actually going to be. But that's it. I mean that that is a major distribution site. There are going to be trucks coming in, you know, overnight. There are two hundred bays, you know, for for trucks to come in and out. That's going to be huge. That is not just a last mile site. Right. So, about a half an hour after Ryan wikin bellow said, you know, it's a great day for Greece, representative Joe Morelli announced that he is going to again sponsor legislation that will be for in it, that will promote innovation, that will promote tech hubs. What he was talking about was a competition and national competition in which NIP, they're called msay's municipal metropolitan statistical areas. So it's not just the city of Rochester but right again, it regions competing to get to committing for a share of eighty billion dollars over nine years, so the almost a little under a billion dollars a year for nine years to promote all types of innovation. So they anticipated the question on this about they are going to part of the selection process. The conteria will be. What is this metropolitan statistical areas? What is this region's commitment to racial equity? And there will be scoring on that, you know. In one of the things he mentioned, Morelli mentioned, was what they're going to look at Education, Workforce Development. They want to create pipelines to these tech jobs. Teach people to be physicists. Okay, whatever else is needed in these computer engineers. Excuse me, whatever else is needed in the in these tech jobs. Part of what...

...he said again is part of the scoring on this is affordable housing. So you know, okay, affordable housing where, and the same areas where we've been talking about affordable housing or affordable housing in suburban areas. So which led me, you know, to this thought or suggestion or popped into my head that you know, we don't blatantly redline housing anymore. We can't do that right for decades in this community and that cause a lot of problems. But if we readline jobs, what's the difference? Put the jobs in the suburbs, we put a portable housing in the city, haven't we just readlined again, pretty much in my face and my humble opinion, pretty much. These are all interesting questions because you're right. So okay, getting out to Greece to work, I guess, is accessible. It's possible. However, at everyone knows the bus. If you're if you're taking the bus to get to get around, the buses run much more frequently in the city on all days. They come out a little bit more rarely when you go out to the suburban areas. Right so within the city they're they're pretty much circular nonstop. It's always happening. Pretty much the further you go out of a little tougher. So the people who are more than likely to get the jobs out and like, let's say Greece, would be probably people who have transportation like a car if they're coming in from the city or they're going to live in the suburbs. Already one of the two. So you already kind of make the got tougher for people who are in this city who are loer income and don't have vehicles and have a little troubled with transportations, have reliable, a reliable way to get to work on a daily basis. So we'll start with that, all right, and let's talk about gates again for a second. So if you've got a seven operation, which is what they're saying, at the paperwork they file, they reprove that you're seven operation, and you have buses that really don't run after midnight right even to some extent in the city, you if they run at all, they're very space down. I haven't checked the schedule. Do they run at all? Between one in five, I believe they stopped at a certain point. So you are right. There's a certain fun start. What happens? What happens that? What happens if you need you have to get home where you're late and you uber if you lift me. So there's a lot that has to be thought about here in in if we're going to create equity or accessibility in jobs, it would for which you can be trained on the job. Right. It's not like a physicist. So I need to have had all the schooling. I will need to learn how X, Y Z company, or ABC Company, when you want to call it, or a a company, right, how they run things. So people going to get trained. You know, you have basically level skills. You can be trained to do the job the way that whatever company wants you to do that. But how are you going to get there? Yep, that's that's the key is, especially if you are working on those later shifts where the you said, you said it right. The later it gets, the less frequent the bus runs. So during though, that that peak time of seven to like eight or nine PM, they're running pretty much non stop, and then right after that eight pm time they begin to slowly, slowly decrease in frequency and eventually they just stop. So if you don't have a vehicle and you live in the city and you're working an overnight shift or something like that, now you're in trouble of trying to get to work. Now let's get to your point about the housing. That's and which is a great point. I think. I thought it was a fantastic point, because you're right. So we're talking about affordable housing and most of the affordable housing from for Monroe County is dealt with in the city. Right that's usually where that is happening. So if you're working on affordable housing, are you going to do that in the suburbs, as they're going to be pushed back? To do that in the suburbs? Are People can be welcome to have section eight housing out in a grease area? Is that going to cause a problem? Or are you? Are you going to, like you said, do the affordable housing still in the city and still create that transtation issue and, and this may not make it a viable option. People live in the city. So we read line jobs exactly housing. We but you go wherever you go with wherever you can afford to go live, but will read line the jobs. So so we really put those out of reach and that's going to take that's going to take a lot of people in this community sitting down...

...and saying we want to create equal opportunity. We have to look at every barrier to that opportunity, from housing, from transportation, from education. I'm sure there are some. I'm not thinking of and we're not going to overcome these barriers tomorrow. No, absolutely not. So in the in the in the story that I had written to break the news about gates thing distribution center, talk to former me of Mayor Bill Johnson, and I said I asked him. I said so, what is the implication? One one hundred jobs, and in the course of our conversation he said that municipalities are often reluctant to make demands of employers, would be employers, for fear that the employer will go someplace out. So it's in the GREEF situation that developer has already asked for what's called a payment in the will taxes. So, brief basically what that is is the developer will will give payments. The taxes are lower initially they make payments instead of the taxes and over time the taxes come up to what they would be right. So they get a break and they help the community by giving extra money to the school district or you know. However, they work out this payment and will of taxes called the pilot. My guess is that whatever the gate situation is, they're going to want to do the same thing. So we the taxpayer are subsidizing this to some extent. They are doing a payment in the of that and they will be paying their taxes right over time. But we're still they're still coming to us for some kind of break. Well, okay, you know this. For that right, and we you want something from us. We want something from you. We want some kind of commitment that there is going to be a good faith attempt at equity here, not just oh yeah, okay, that's fine, flavor of the month, Yep kind of thing. I mean so, you nobody wants to twelve or two jobs go away, but company, you know, companies in a sense of like professional sports teams, is they will play these communities against each other to get what they want. Well, we need something here. Yeah, and we've talked before for and I think you and I both are I think I should we we've already. We did say that we agree on this. A lot of the root of allow the problems that we have in Rochester is is poverty. That really is the stemming issue of almost everything that we talked about, the the things that you see with Daniel Prune all that, those are issues, but the underlying issue to everything, in my opinion, is is poverty and the way to get things better, to they get people out of that which you call quote unquote trap, is to get them out of poverty and jobs like this. Fifteen an hour. Okay, you're not wealthy, but that's a decent amount of money to actually, you know, put food on your table and pay bills. And you're right. I think that when we have something like this, somebody like this coming in and there they want us to give them the tax breaks, anything that are asking for, we should see a real effort from them, not that's not the on paper effort. All we tried, we did, we wrote down that will do affordable halls. You right, that's that's good enough. We're good right, or everything is all said, we need to see real effort to try to be inclusive to people that are in the city that are trying desperately to get themselves out of that poverty situation by making these jobs available to them, and not everyone who doesn't have a cars because they've had some sort of issue. Cars are expensive, right, I cost later to ensure your car, to put fuel in your car, to do maintenance on your car, and if you buy a newer car now, you get that car payment. So cars aren't cheap. So if you don't make a lot of money, you can't afford a cars because you are a bad person, just you can't afford it. And I totally understand that right now exactly. So there's a there's a lot of potential here, particular, I think, with with with the innovation, with what more he's trying to do with animation. But you know, I wonder if that's a barrier to some communities. Do they really want to commit to affordable housing in areas where these jobs will be, not just affordable housing the city? And then we'll bust people out right? Yeah, they'll take the boss. So they'll figure out a way to get there. mean the jobs have to be where the people right. Rightly. And here's the other thing that I was thinking that I have floated this to other people and see what you think about it. I think the the postal service or whoever has given mail like the Rochester mailing address of the numerous suburbs around us. I don't think has done did any favors. I think it has led to confusion because when you say Rochester, what do you...

...mean? I said Rochester. I think the city of Rochester. Me Too. Yeah, downtown interlop. You know parks O have? Yep, it right, southwedge, Yep, on the right. You know North Witton village? Yep. This is just me talking. I think that when outsiders these company, he's come in to bring these jobs. Oh we're going to Rochester. No, you not. You going to gates. Yep. You want to child and you want to dates, but a great right. Yeah, right, not coming to Rochester. It may say Rochester on the mailing adject but it's not Rochester Chester. And now I think to try to you know. Now we have the Rochester Finger Lakes region. Well, what's the Rochester? No, it's Canada. Not, Mr Kevin, it's not Rochet bag. Was Definitely Not Rochester. Right, step the Rochester name. I mean you can call a rose a turn up, right, but it's don't look like a flower, not a vegetable. Right, so to say, and I'm at this I had this discussion with with Bill Johnson and we had to end it because neither one of us have the time to really go into it. But what does it mean to say Rochester? Yeah, what does it mean to say Rochester when you're talking about jobs? Right, it's a great day for Grease, says the grease supervisor. That's what you know. What me, as a Monroe County Taxpayer, I'm subsidizing this right, right, right, stinky day for me, right, right, no, you're right. The funny thing is, the reason why I'm laughing through is I've had this conversation before. It's not that I met with you up is he, but with someone else is. People say right, because you're right. You live. You live in Chili, you live in the town of Chili, but when you have a letter sent to you, it says Rochester, New York. If you live into like the deep parts of Chili, there's nothing similar that. That Chili is to the city. It's completely different. It's a it's a chili is as a complete suburb. So you're right. When people say Rochester, they're thinking of especially outsiders, not you and me, who have lived in the city and know what the city is and the love the city experience of city people from the outside. When they think Rochester, they're thinking Henrietta, they're thinking gates, Greece. Child I are on the quite webster Canadaday will, like you said, no, those are those are definitely Matt Rochester, that those are webster. Does it? Webster have its own? I think webster got its own. I think you give me a webster. I think you're right. I do think you're right. Airport, even though airports parented. And Yeah, it Penfield, right, yeah, a few, but you right. But the real you know, the the what do they call those? Contiguous Countryminius, the ones that touch Rochester? Right, say, say Rochester and so, no, it's so. The Amazon says, so, we're setting up another center in Rochester. No, you're setting it up in Greece. Yep, exactly, it's so. No. So I think there's something and I don't know if it's a marketing thing because of the struggles of the city has nobody wants to say. or I'm coming to Rochester, where the school district is incredibly yes, whatever you yeah, here. You know, we have lots of issues right now with violence. I mean, if someone were to Google Rochester, what are they going to come up with? was where we had forty eight homicides. Now we have thirty two of all of last year. Yeah, we're not doing so hot right now, but we're having a tough time. But you know, good paying jobs can help turn that around. In a day, a week, a month, a year? Yep, no. But in over a period of time, if if Rochester competes and becomes an in winds and becomes an innovation hub, you know Morelloy with the with the cliche. Will we want? We want all those to be lifted by the rising tide? Well, you know, do you do? You work on your plan with the school district in ratchets city. School district went as you're writing this plan so that you have it's like whole curriculum. Comes to my my go there and explain that people who may know but you know so treat it like a whole curriculum. Is that we're gonna WE'RE gonna develop this plan to compete for this innovation money that to be this tech hub. But we're going to make this a complete community effort to do it. We're going to link it to the schools and we're going to link it to housing, going to link it to other kinds of things. Yeah, it's part of people that. I will figure out how to do that, but we can't any longer just look at come up with the really bad analogy for this. You know, my shoes...

...one out right. Do I have to just get into cair of shoes or is there something else I need to look at to make sure that the next pair of shoes las long right, really bad analoge? I'm so it will make it makes sense. At least. At least I can understand what you try to say. They're but don't I agree. I obviously everyone we're always happy when jobs come here, especially during a time like now. But the point is where we do want to help out the city of Rochester because I believe the city of Rochester is probably struggling a lot more than the surrounding areas. So we got to make sure. I'm not saying the other areas aren't struggling. You know, I don't want to diminish what's happening in this running areas. Everyone's having issues right now during this time, but I like you said, rochsters really having a tough go at it right now and we need to try to do something to Bell Rochster out of the whole hole that that they're dealing with right now. So we need to do if if we're going to bring twelve hundred, twelve thousand, was it Twelveero jobs two hundred. Thank you. So if we're going to bring twelve hundred jobs, we need to see if we can make sure that rockster is going to reap some of the benefits of that and not just have grease all of a sudden see this uprising from this. So will we're come on that. By the way, I do want to give minor reporter in you kudos to first breaking the story about gates. That was that's pretty awesome, so well done. All right, so let's move on to another fun topic, covid hit. Sure do so. As everyone is probably aware now, the restrictions have been raised in the area. I believe we're at yellow now, if I'm correct, and I'm sure that we're going to see things get worse as the weather gets colder, as the holidays come into play here. It's weird. My I didn't even mention this to you before we got on today. Patty, my my teenager, they pretty much ended class on Friday abruptly because someone in the school had tested positive. So they pretty much close the school down and everyone's it's home because of that. And this this was that Leroy, actually not Leroy, it was the boss program in the Tavia where they bust people from the Orient to go to. So yeah, it's it's getting rough and I know it's I'm a little nervous that we're going to get to the point where things were when this first happened, where we pretty much were locked down, not just not not restrictions, but locked down, and our numbers are rising at Ash farmic right right now. Patty. Where do you see this going? No place good. So on Friday, for example, there were two hundred and ninety eight new confirmed cases confirmed on Friday, which was an improvement there, because there were three hundred. Yeah, but every age group from from the from children from under ten years old, so zero to ten, to our during nine into two people in their S, hmm, had multiple cases. I don't understand how there were forty two males in their s t the positive tests for forty two males in their twent S. HMM, twenty five females in their S, thirty females from ten to nineteen. So this is what I understand. So the county health director says that schools have done a really good job. We don't know how much covids and schools and yet we've got thirty females ages ten to nineteen. Yeah, and and we've got nineteen males ten to nineteen. Where else would they be? How many? I don't know. I've sports to any was it sports teams that they're you know, community sports teams that they're on? or where? Where else would you have these big numbers? And this isn't this is just looking at just Fridays. Yeah, I could go back and still find, you know, multiples in those, you know, forty nine teenagers. So is this the House party? Yeah, that's a yeah, other rings. That's where I was going with that. is so I was thinking. I was thinking this, Patty. Halloween recently just happened and sometimes thank you. Yeah, I mean so there could have been people and I know I saw it because I so Halloween we did not do anything at all. Really. We went to one house where we knew the people and that was really it and we went back home. That was our that was our halloween. But you saw, we saw people not socialistanting, not wearing the appropriate gear, going into houses and...

...droves. It was, it was, it was ridiculous. So I'm thinking, as we because we you've made this you puting something before. The numbers are not that day. They're they're accumulated over you know what's happened previously. So it doesn't mean that that numbers on Friday or tests of Friday. There results are that accumulated over time. So I wonder if this is a reflection of what happened during Halloween. Yeah, that's a good point, because in the news conferences the last two weeks bellow and Mendoza said that the increases from people who have been indoor gatherings, not wearing masks and, you know, in close, close to each other. So yeah, that would be. That would the Halloween. And looking at Friday, you figure you've got teenagers and you've got females in thees, males in the in the S, twenty five females in the S, nineteen males in authes, you know, somewhat of Halloween Party type. Yeah, you know, he, he's. What is concerning, though, is when you see six people in their S. Yeah, people in their n that's rough. So what's happening? Is that potentially a problem again in nursing homes and I know that families who haven't seen their loved ones who live in nursing homes or assisted living have there's been a movement to try to get what's called compassionate care. Yeah, yeah, if people aren't on hospice. But you so, you wonder is something going on here with these, with these compassion cares? Is there's something going on now in these older, you know, a don't care facilities that is going to shut that down? Okay, yeah, no, I think that's concerning. I saw that too and that is very considering. The the the that age bracket. And you're right. I just like you, my mind immediately went to the nursing homes and thought perhaps that there's an issue there, and I really hope not because I know people. That's a that's a top situation because a lot of people are, you know, towards their end of their life when they're in that situation and not being able to visit or see your loved ones during that time. That's that's so, that's so in really tough. Another question. WHO's MOMS in? And it was in a nursing moment and my friend tells me that when she would went and was able to see her mom was just a different person. She was just so shrunken. Yeah, it's amazingly tough. So I wanted to ask you this question because I know that you also work at you've also done work in physical fitness and health. So what that so with a new mandate, if I understand this correctly, and correctly if I am wrong, I believe it was ten o'clock. Now restaurants and bars with the liquor license have to be closed by a curbside is still allowed. I believe that's what they said. Also, work out in gymnasium facilities have to be closed by ten of ten PM as well. I think that was the mandate. So my question to use this because I found that not what the restaurants and bars I understand that because that's kind of a peak time, especially when you go on Friday night Saturday nights where people congregate, but with the gym's people who are to the like those twenty fo our gyms at like one in the morning, there's like nobody there, because I've done that before. Well, there you go. That's why people would go yea, so so the pass key, you know. So he is really nobody there, so why would you close it? Well, but for me personally, I wouldn't want that kind of facility because if something happens and there's no okay, good point, look, but that's that's a whole nother art. That's a whole discussion because you don't it could be a gathering point later, and especially if there's no supervision. Yeah, I didn't think about that. That's work. I work at one of the local wise a few hours a week and you know, we clean vigorously and regularly and we are always on the lookout for somebody whose masks is not they're not wearing the mask, and we go up to them and say, please adjust your mask. It has to be one prowly right. So you know, there may be places and it's also let's keep people more at home. Let's get them out of a palm. Yeah, flowers and and do is there really in need? Yeah, if you're a third shift worker, you may want to, you know, go work out weight or second shift you don't have to get before you go home. But you know, Adam, know and Documentos a talk about the greater good at this point. No, yeah, community the greater good. This is public health. This is a public health emergency and we have to do things to protect the public health. And if that cuts into your workout, that's unfortunate, but this is a public health no, yeah, I'm not. I'm not. Obviously I try to follow the mandates as much as possible. I just I just it was just I was just curious. I was just thinking. You know, I've been I've been a member at those twenty four our gyms before and I would use it go at like...

...three in the morning on purpose because there's like no there's literally is nobody there, so whatever piece of equipment I want to have to myself. And I was just thinking, man, that's like really the most noncredit time of the gym that you ever be there at. So I was just curious, but not that it makes sense that I didn't think about that. If you if you go with a group of people or if you just hang out there, you're right that that could be an issue, especially with no supervision and you're not wiping do things properly. Now I'm thinking about that and that makes that makes sense and you're right to people do it. Is it is more trying to get the idea and people's heads to stay home. I am still very nervous because if you thought, if you thought Halloween was a gathering Mecca or a gathering nightmare waiting to happen. Thanksgiving and Christmas. My God, that's pretty much would that's what you do on those holidays, right. You get everyone together, you're the big dinners. How are they going to enforce this, fatty, because that's almost impossible to do. Okay. So the enforcement. So every time the governor talks about a microcluster and a region of the state, he says local governments have to enforce the guidelines. What is enforcement for me? So I think, I honestly think that Adam bellow is really getting tired of that question. Here comes the enforcement. Right. So you know, I kiled on the other day and I prefaced it with you know, the governor is always talking about enforcement. That is why we are always asking you about right. Right, does it look like? So he said you're local police department is not driving by counting the cars in front of absolutely not. Right right on the door and counting heads inside and saying, okay, you got to go because there's too many people here. No, it's more focused on establishments to make sure that they are following the law. Bellow said that the Monroe County Health Department, the state, with her authority, and state police are collaborating on a strategy for enforcement. So he didn't give a whole it was that look like a pretty much what he said, and so I don't know if that's still being worked out. I don't know if that's top secret. You know, you can't tell anybody know what you're up to. But you know, my point was, and I said this last week and I didn't say it again to them this week, I said, you know, click it or ticket or that's why they have speed traps. Yeah, they're saying. He bellow is is adamant, at least to this point, saying that people have to do the right thing because it's the right thing, not because there is a legal punishment for it. But people speed until they get a ticket. Yeah, see to right, come down for a while. Then they may speed again or they may just be people who always speed, people who will be people who will not wear a mask anywhere. Yeah, just like you are people who always drive fifteen miles an hour these week right. So, but I think it's tough. Now what police are not didn't want to do what I know, which I understand any time the police do anything. Yeah, good point too. Yeah, so, so this is. So it's tough to say enforcement at a time when police for the bad guy pretty much. Yeah, that is really down on anything police do. It's a very good point. That's an extremely good point. That's hot. There're already looked at at as the bad guy right now, and people going into a house that tell you because you have two puty people are you're not wearing your masks or something. Yeah, that just makes you look like that. Go into the house anyway. But yeah, you don't. You Know Me, let somebody even roll up on the playground and say to the guys playing basketball, Hey, guys, come on, yes, right, I mean it's not gonna happen, right. So, you know, the governor talks about enforcement. I'm not quite sure what Carlo Universe he's living in. Who is supposed to be enforcing this? Or is this part of, you know, reimagining instead of just reimagining public safety, doing reimagine public health and how we promote public health? Whose responsibility is to promote public health? I don't know. I mean there's a lot of you know what going on right now. I can't keep up. And somebody took somebody today before we got, you know, before we started talking here mentioned it. The phrase nervous, nervous exhaustion is it's no longer used. Yeah, but I vote that we bring back the phrase. I think it's a good phrase because I think a whole heck of a lot of us are yeah, Astin Yeah, you know the Latin will. This is the last thing we'll mention. Then will, we'll get out of here. But I was I was...

...thinking because of the fact so the weather is going to get worse, as we all know, the snow is going to come outdoor activities are going to pretty much cease. I know that some of the restaurants are trying to work out things where they have like heated patios or whatever, but there's only laugh so long too when it gets extremely cold and snowy. So the only thing that people are going to be able to do, if they're not staying in, is to go to somebody else's house, which you should do in the first place. So that's what makes me nervous the most is that schools are going to be completely remote. A lot of the colleges are going to be, by this time, completely remote, right, so a lot. So you won't be able to even go to your school, so you're going to be doing school at home. A lot of people are working from home, so you're working from home. The restaurants and stuff won't really be doing much because how cold it is and the Patios might be closed, so you're not going to be going out really either do it. So you're going to be stuck at home. And if you are a young person and it's the holidays, I'm just nervous that that is going to be. You know, people are going to are going to find ways to to sneak around and do the wrong thing and and that just makes me a look. Like you said, the nerves exhaustion that that nerves be right there is when you push people to it into a corner, that's when they use these snap and maybe that's part of we talked about the violence in the city that we're seeing. Yeah, it could be covid related. I don't I don't know the answer to that. So what you know, bellow and Mendoza say every week, is where your mask, keep as much distance from somebody else is you as you possibly can. They are not going to say do not go to Thanksgiving. I would be shocked if they. Yeah, yeah, I think they if this is a public health emergency, I think they should put then again, you're talking to somebody who is four hundred miles from closest family. So yeah, right, yeah, it's good. But but you know where where the mask in the house? If you're going to be with people who want your family, wear the mask in the house, take it off to eat, put it back on. Yep, so s it. You know, I have been invited as a place for Thanksgiving. Them be two or three people total in a house that can have very many more people. So if we're in the living room talking where at three different points, spaced out right room with the table for three to two, have that to have that distance from people. But once you once you start exceeding the six foot space rule, you know that, and that mainly be one of the person in your house, your apartment, and maybe two other people. Right, if you if you want to do this or if you feel compelled to do this, you have to take vanescessary precautions of wearing a mask at all times and distancing right. Yep, trying to space it out in your mouth. Yeah, it's going to be and it's going to be awkward and it's going to be hard and people are exhausted. People are exhausted. Our officials are are acknowledging that. Yes, covid fatigue, whatever I have will maintain this until the end of this pandemic. I started saying this in March. We continue to minimize the mental health aspects of this. I agree with that. I head that totally. Last thing I want to ask you just end again. This is the opinion thing, because we're not scientists by far. Fires are announced that there's a vaccine that looks like it's ninety percent success rate with this vaccine. Do you think now? I did also read that the conditions in which you have to be kept alive is like negative seventy degrees or something ridicul I can't remember the exact temperatures, but I know it was. Yeah, something ridiculous. So do you think this is going to be something that's going to obviously this is not a cure. So eat. So vaccines don't cure anything, but this. Do you think this may turn the corner for us with this covid thing? Not Today and again. So Rochester regional health is involved in the worldwide trial, yeah, for this. So they had at one of the one of the doctors who is running the trial locally, was held a news conference and again, you know, I I can take the fun out of anything. Just why? I guess I don't get invited to by thanks doing we are, yeah, right out of the room. But he said, you know, stock pocket went crazy a week ago on Monday because of fisor and because of the results of the election. So let's just look at the at the vaccine part of this is and my question was, you know,...

...how do we how do we reign in the horses here on this? Yeah, so these were inter room results. It was in people who received two doses and had and showed that they were not still didn't get worse. Or I can again I'm tripping over the praise. Yeah, Ninety four people, ninety percent effective, and I think the the number was ninety four research subjects out of forty four thousand. Okay, but you know, it's a good stuff. It's a start right there, you do. You know, you would say it was better than a poke in the eye with the shop stick. Right, it was better than in a result showing there was no benefit. Right, but how long is it benefit last? We know with seasonal flu, you have to get vaccine every year because the strange change. Right. I'm not a scientist, but I wouldn't I would expect this to behave somewhat similarly. Yeah, I would, as Iris is opposed to something, something else. So could you take so if we get a vaccine next year, we could need another one in two thousand and twenty two or two thousand and twenty three. It could become like flu. We don't know that. I maintain, and I could be the only one doing this, that the more people who are involved in the trial, the more people who get vaccine. Versus perceible and the people who are in the trials do not know what they're getting. But the more people who are involved in the longer this goes, goes on. That's when more side effect show up. Yeah, I mean, I'm not running out buying fiser stock right. So it looks good now, but we're always away. Now trials have been stopped early when there is a clear benefit, the risk benefit analysis shows a clear benefit. HMM, I don't think we're there yet because again, the numbers is small and this was inerim. I think in three or four months, if things progress like that, maybe they maybe they stopped it early and try to get it into production, to get it out to people again. I don't know, but this is not coming to the pharmacy near you yet. Write any real sort. So put the mask on, stay home, if you don't have to go out, if you go out feet, go out, be in nature, get fresh air, be six feet away from somebody you know, take a walk, do something that calms you a little bit by enjoying, you know, the outdoors and, if you have the means to do so, if you are able to do so, some nice sort of you know, modern fabric, thermal underwear and spikes for your shoes right really make winter a pleasant experience if, if you are able, if you are able to you know, afore those things. It's not you don't have to spend a ton of money, but there are people again, it's been a tough economic time and there are people choosing, you know the thing. Things are tight, but if you can and prepare for winter, to enjoy some of it outdoors, you may find yourself pleasantly surprised. Yeah, that's actually very beautiful. The winner is a very beautiful season. It's cold, it's beautiful. It's funny. I heard you given the lecture about wearing your mask even though there's a vaccine. So, like my mother told me to get my vegetables, I just I just had that feeling. Listen that. I know the stick looks good, I know the fries look good. to eat your vegetables. I guess I'm the I guess educator and me. And do I wear it every single moment? About doors? Know if I'm not walking by myself or right person? No, I don't, because I there's distance and and things like that when I'm indoors with other people. Yes, right, right, I've same, same, same here, unless I'm in my house with my just my immediate family. Other than that, I wear masks wherever on. That all right, Patty. Well, hopefully the future gets better for us. Obviously will keep telling you these stories, no matter what they are, so we want to keep you informed. Don't forget, if you want to hear the full version of the headline news that you're heard at the beginning of the show, make sure you visit the minority reporter Dotnet. You get the full versions of all those headline stories. Also, there's a section there for you to subscribe to the minority reporter again, I don't. I know I tell you this all the time, but local journalism isn't is important more now than ever. So if you want to get those stories is that are important to you about your community and what's happening in your area, you need to get the storage from people that live and report there and then my reporters there for you. and Go ahead and take that option to subscribe to get that in information. And also, if you're tuning in right now, you...

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