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Episode 18 · 2 years ago

Life After Social Distancing

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Headline news with Patti Singer and discussion on life after social distancing. Also a clip from the Roc City Showcase podcast featuring Hip Hop Artist/Producer Volatile ProducerEmcee

Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson, and Hello, welcome to another edition of inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson, and we are still, of course, in quarantine, still self isolating because of covid nineteen. Looks like there are. There is some news coming from governor Cuomo that suggests perhaps things may get better around me fifteen, but worse again? We still don't know. We're still waiting for the for, you know, positive reinforcement on that so we can finally begin to maybe start to return to normalcy. But until then one thing that you can count on is headline news from the minority reporters. Patty singer, good afternoon, Patty. You stay open night thing? Do you have that? You have a book? You okay, this is the form of Segue. One segue can use kind of rotates through the seguays. Yeah, I try different one every day. It's amazing. It's amazing all right. Well, thank you. Thank you for joining us and I'll as with no further ado. A city agreement with green light could bring high speed Internet into underserved areas. In agreement between Rochester and green light networks could build a bridge over the digital divide, which has become more like a chasm since covid nineteen has exposed differences and access to the Internet. The master license agreement is expected to expand availability of the company's high speed service to residents and businesses. Green Light promotes its high speed internet starting at fifty a month. It is in elevenzero households in the city. It has some presence in affordable housing units and in some areas or onlike avenue. For the most part it is not made it roads into a lower income neighborhoods. In announcing the agreement, Rochester Mere Lovely Warren said the city and green light would work to identify areas most in need of Internet service, for lack of that service in some neighborhoods has been evident, as schools closed because of covid nineteen and the Rochester City School district has had to devise ways to continue education. The agreement with green light has to be approved by city council. The document is not yet bellow and Mendoza have not had covid nineteen tests when Roe County has tested approximately twelvezero residents for covid nineteen, but county executive Adam Bellow and Department of Public Health Commissioner Dr Michael Mendoza are not among them. Neither has been symptomatic, neither is aware of coming into close contact with someone who has tested positive of according to countys folks women at Juliet, Philip Mendows it did have an antibody test taken at a local walnut to examine the process the company was using. His result was negative. Tell the mayor which city services are crucial. Covid nineteen is affecting more than physical and emotional health. The illness is expected to take a financial toll on every layer of government that has to pay for the response and deal with lost sales tax and other revenue from businesses being closed for weeks, if not months. As the city prepares its two thousand and twenty and twenty one budget, Mayor Lovely Warren is asking residents to share what services they think are essential and where they believe the city needs to invest. The survey is open through may five. You can go to city of Rochester Dot Gov budget keeping in the COVID nineteen trend. Knowing the facts is part of staying safe. The news about the illness changes almost daily and it comes from so many sources that it can be hard to keep up. Minority reporter talked with Candice Lucas, chair...

...of the African American Health Coalition, and the Sinda collandres and Dr Isabel Diana Fernandez, Co chairs of the Latino Health Coalition, about what is fiction, what is fact and how to protect yourself and your family. For people who have questions about covid they can call them. Monroe County Department of Health dedicated phone line, and that is five hundred and eighty five, seven, five, three, three, by five, by five again, seven, five, three, five, five, five five. The Rochester City School District has accepted Terry Dad's resignation and is also had heard updates on the budget proposal. Two hours after he called for a vote on the resignation of Superintendent Terry Dade, Rochester City School District Board of Education President Van White praised the man who left the district before finishing the first year of his contract. The Board voted to accept Dad's resignation after it emerge from executive session. No details of any separation package were made public. At the end of the meeting and before again going into executive session, White said it was appropriate to thank everyone involved in developing a budget that has to close an eighty seven million dollar gap. We should begin with Terry Dade, White said. Bottom line, this was a budget that was originally drafted and presented by our superintendent, Mr Dad. He does deserve some thanks for getting US started on this conversation, and that conversation continues into early May. The board has to vote to accept the plan. In National News, three hundred forty nine billion dollar covid small business program short changes businesses of color. The program created to assist America's small businesses, was launched on April three to provide payroll, utility, rent and more for eligible applicants screened by the US Small Business Administration. However, less than two weeks later, the national stimulus and acted in the rows of their pandemic, ran out of funds and separate but related legal actions, federal lawsuits were filed challenging the lack of equitable access to the stimulus program. On April nineteen, four class action lawsuits challenge the bank's use of what's called the Payroll Protection Program Funds. While the legal process unfold the center of responsible lending estimated as many as ninety five percent black owned businesses stood no chance of securing a program loan. Other communities of color were likely to be shut out as well. Ninety one percent of both Latino owned and Native Hawaiian or Pacific island owned businesses were financially short changed. This week's cover story looks at the life and the contributions to Rochester of Donald Starver, a good sumarian and pillar of hope for everyone. Too many colleagues, friends, youth and community leaders. Donald starver was an example of sincere, caring, giving and a concerned servant for the city of Rochester. At age of fifty six, starver is one of our heroes who was taken over by by illness on April eighteen. He's remembered as a consummate professional who was very active, fit and a great fisherman. And after he moved from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to Rochester, he became involved in many civic organizations and he helped found or was involved in several organizations to voted to young black man, the Reverend Michael Vaughan, writes that it is time to open up. While there are varying opinions, it is time for us to open up our nation. He says, we have essentially close our economy for what has turned out to be much less of an issue than we thought when it first hit. One writes that he is not downplaying or belittling the deaths and the pain they have caused on families that have been affected. We have to honor those who have died, grieve with those who are grieving, but moll forward as a society. You write stuff. For every one death due to covid nineteen, there have been about five hundred people that have filed for unemployment, and he puts those numbers out there because, as he says,...

...we as a society need to put into perspective the tremendous damage we are doing to our nation by staying on flocked out. Matt. Thank you, Patty, and just to reminder folks that if you want to get a full versions of the headline news stories, that you just heard. You can go to the minority reporter Dotnet and you can find all the full versions there as well. You can also you can subscribe to the minority reporter on the site as well, if you want to get a subscription, which I sincerely hope you do. I do that and it's always a great news source for me. Also, you can go to our website at inside the margins RADIOCOM. There's a link to the minority reporter on that site and also you can listen to all of our past episodes on inside the margins Radiocom as well as you can find all of the replays on I heartcom and also where where you get your podcasts. And also, if you do have any information or you want to ask questions or just have suggestions for the minority reporter, you can email editor at minority reporter Dotnet, and you can also reach out to us as well on inside the margins RADIOCOM. So we will be back. This is inside the margins. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom welcome back to inside the margins. I am your host, Matt Wilson. All right, so we got a few things that I want to talk about and I that story about Donald Star Wars is definitely a good one and it was nice that you were able to pay tribute to such a such a Good Samaritan. But before we talk about anything else, I notice that you have a new haircut, patty, you look you look at a really good we can't talk about that and they have been new ego. We don't, we weren't ask we have photos. She wore a mask where we're good. It is. It's interesting. And talk before that. You know, many years ago I had when at a surgery, and now for calls after surgeries have changed and people can shower and, you know, do all kinds of things for that. You know I couldn't do that for period of time and I have short hair anyway, so it's not as much of an issue, but it's interesting what we do to make us feel normal. And so the person who professionally cuts my hair and doing it for years said you sure, come in, I'll give you a wash your hair, and I just felt after a week of not being able to do that because of recovery and surgery. How good that felt? You know, definitely the expression is first world problem. Yeah, at it. We only know what it is. We know right, and and and this situation now, I think, is teaching US empathy for for people who don't have who have other issues, and we need to be more sympathetic to that. But we are still creatures of our own habits. Right. So, so does if you feel you know all you now, Matt. You know with the what the ball going? You can just get the get the play anime. Do that. So so for that it. It's not an issue for people. You know, you can shave your own beer. Could I have done this myself? Yeah, and we would have not been on video ever again. Right. So you know people doing that. But I will now be the mask, the master of the Segue with this. We talked about something before. So people want to get hair cuts and it's actually it's interesting. My sister was in Rhode Island and she was telling me about news conference that the governor had and somebody asked when will the Salan's open, and the governor replied, are you telling me? I need a haircut?...

That so so she joked about that, but let's use this to talk about something serious. So the weather's getting nicer. Keep if, I believe this is the case, that if you test positive for covid you then become sort in the system, in your tracked in quarantine and and I don't think they're put an ankle grace what on you, but you need to adhere to certain rules. Right, great, it's it's getting nicer out. Are People going to want now to be tested for covid knowing that if I test positive, I am in a quarantine situation for at least fourteen days. Could I go for a walk? Could I go right my even by myself? I go for a walk by myself? Could I go run my bike? Could I? And if that's the case, if people start thinking that way, do then the numbers become artificially deflated? And then do we not know how many new cases we have as we start to open these and now we're being teased with Oh, we may open things up, manufacturing will start against. Somebody who has been laid off or for a load for a while back to work. This is this is great. Things will open up incrementally. And if you test positive, to you in a sense miss that. Now. What's our civic responsibility to each other in the democracy? Yeah, we get marched off to get tested in a democracy for for the Publican he's a lot of societal questions that that are being asked of folks, but I wonder if really now isn't the time to really step up the anybody testing for a couple of reasons. If you have a covid nineteen test, I don't believe. I'm not a scientist, but from what I read and and and heard, that test is not going to be one hundred percent act. Yes, you are. You record on that. So I could be. I could go for a test today, test negative it tomorrow, become exposed. Figure, Oh, I already had a test. I'm good being a symptomatic carrier or whatever. My understanding of the anybody test would be that if I tested, should I had anybody's I either have or had the disease, the illness, and then I can take the appropriate steps. Now in the Public Health Commissioner Monroe County back in Michael Mendows, it is often said testing is performed when the result will will affect a course of treatment, the outcome or whatever. So I think that anybody testing becomes important because that then affects what you do. What you do with that knowledge. Does it? Does that not? Would change anything? I understand the knowledge of a positive covid test change is something. What does the knowledge of a negative test? Does that give a false sense of security to people? So knowing, knowing my, anybody status, let's make a bad analogy. Sure, back to the HIV days, knowing your status, do took, hopefully, precautions right? Negative, you stay negative. You are positive. You protected others. That's what the quarantine is in here. You're protecting others. But you know, we've had a few nice days of weather. We will have a we will have many more. Actually, yes, are getting tired. We're not used to this. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just putting the thought out there. Will fewer people want a test for the virus at this point? And if, yeah, people do, what is that going to say as we start to reopen things? I think it's a very, very valid point, because...

...you start off saying this perfectly. We've already been quarantine for a while, or salt or self isolated, or or how do you want to describe it? and the weather is getting nicer and we are being teased. We now begetting to hear, you know, just mentions of the possibilities of things opening up and just a taste of normalcy. Is What people want, and you've said uperfectly with just with the hair cut. It certainly is first world problems, but doing things to make you feel somewhat normal makes us feel better. So getting the haircut, shaving, when I told you the story about me shaving earlier while before we got on air. Just doing small things and make yourself feel normal, feeling it makes you feel better mentally and even physically. So the fact that it's going to get nicer than the fact that we are all going to want to be outside, and you're right, if it doesn't mean that we're going to go play hoops with our friends, but just for a walk or a bike ride or to go outside and grill or anything like that. Just this, just things to make yourself feel. You know, this is what this is what I would do in the spring or the summer. I would be outside, I would do stuff, and you don't want things to stop you from doing that, because you because we have been pretty much stuck in our home. So the last five six weeks and it's and people are not going to want to do anything that's going to deter that. So I agree. I agree with you there. I do think that that may make testing less, I guess, attractive to people, even even if you feel a little sick. You might I just got the sniffles. I don't want to, I don't want to go that far yet and make myself forcibly stay home for fourteen days or more after I get tested. I I want to be outside, I want to play with the kids in the yard, I want to do stuff I would do in the summertime. So you're right. I think that it's going to make people hesitate to get the tests more and more. Especially the big thing that you mentioned is that that teas, that teas that we're getting that hey, jobs may be opening back up, some things may be coming back, that you were not able to do some businesses. I even heard that there's a thought about opening up movie theaters, but, you know, kind of spreading things out so when you can't have a full house, but they may open up the theaters and and have it maybe half capacity so people are spaced appropriately. Do you want to people are probably dying to do stuff like that. So so the testing, I think absolutely will be swayed because of that. That that's just my opinion, of course. And you know, I Adam Bellow had a news conference on the other the other day and I asked the question because he was talking about lost revenue and the county potentially. You know, grant is or been the first quarter, so you don't know when he's going to open up, but the potential the loss of sales tax revenue is in the tens of millions of dollars. Yes, lots of federal government aid is in the tens of millions of dollars. So the question I asked him was, as you want to start opening things up, do you really need a true sense of who has had this? And again, I mean I'm a dog with a slipper with this. Anybody tested? Sure's I'm just going to tread this thing because I think that's that's key to this. We have to know how many people had it, how many people still potentially at risk, and I don't think a test for the virus tells you the whole picture. Again, not a scientist, just somebody who plays one in the newspapers. So so that that was if you're thinking of opening up, I think he's revenue and these are the people who may be going out to these places, going back to a small mom and pop retailer. Do you need to know their status in a sense to do this? I also do not think, and regular listeners will know...

...where I'm going to go with this, I do not think that mental health concerns have been taken enough into consideration. It's now I was on to to Webinars for Webinar and in a call in look in the past week about that very topic and I'm still kind of processing in my own mind of what people were saying. But one of the things, one of the points was interesting that some you MC people were talking about. The question was for people who always feel they're isolated for whatever reason, has this made it more his covid nineteen cause more of a problem for them? Or now they say to other people will welcome to my world? Right, yeah, it's been the empathy for others going through the so was that? Regular listeners know that you and I met have talked a lot about mental that's yeah, I think that has been taken enough into consideration. I don't think that has been taken enough into consideration in reopening, at least what I have seen, red and her it. Maybe it's just not coming down. You know, the Pike where to me, but I think that's you get. Public Safety, to me, is more than just if I sneeze on you, you're going to get sick. Public Health is, health is everything. Health is is it is physical, it is mental, it is emotional, it is social, it is environmental, it is financial. Those are the domain, dope, domains of health, right and so if we're only focusing on my sneeze, your illness, we're short changing all of health. That just makes it more complicated. I agree with that too. I saw. Well, I've talked too many people who are usually bright and bubbly and the most optimistic people in the world. All the things we better will be fine, we're going to get through together, and a lot of their two their tones of change recently, like I'm now. They're saying I'm sad, I'm Sola. She's got me a little depressed, I think because we're so focused on budget issues, which I get, because people have been out of work and we're so far in debt everywhere it's ridiculous right now. And how are we going to come out of that? And I understand it. That's that's a priority, especially when it comes to government. But you're right, I think in the thought processes of the whole economic status, of what's good, what's happening, people aren't really concentrating on how will this affect the people mentally, how are people doing? I'm pretty upbeat, optimistic character usually as well, and I'm still okay, I'm not. I'm not, I'm not anywhere's near being a depressed person, but even I've had moments, you know, because I because pat he's gotten to know me, I'm a pretty friendly, outgoing I like to shake hands, I'm a hugger. I'm that's that. That's that's the kind of person I am. So being not being able to do that, not being a little see my friends or give a handshake or just hang out with some people that I like for a while, it does. It does wear on you. It makes it, it makes things tough. I likely have I live with my family and that helps a little bit, but I still do miss seeing my parents and my brothers and my friends and all that. So I get I can't do that. But and like I'm a pretty positive prostest and I say I'm not sure I say positive, but Pezz people are all that way, some people who are already kind of in a negative mindset. How bad has this been on them? How far has it taken him down? If you're already kind of down, how much lower has is taking you? And you know, I don't have the answers to that. I can't. I'm not I'm not a counselor and one of the things that has always,...

I guess, blocked me is what I think is is the instincere how are you? Have talked about this like so you pass somebody on the street or in the grocery store and and whatever, it goes, how are you? How you doing? And they keep going Yep, and I would when you're asking somebody that now, if you don't want to stick around for the answer, then to me, don't ask the question because, as you say, man, now more than ever you may get an answer. Yeah, and are you prepared for the real answer and and what to do with that answer? So I mean obviously when your friends ask you, they are they are asking you, they are they are well meeting whatever, but you know the stranger. How you doing? I take that as a question that wants an answer. Right, right, Yep, really, right, they can. Somebody's gonna care about that. So you know what? I substitute with hello, good morning. Yep, it's a pretty day. I'm not walking and I passed. It's a pretty day today. I've acknowledged you, I see you, I'm greeting you, but you know, maybe this makes me sound selfish, callous or hypocritical. I'm not in a position to help you with if you tell me how you are right. No, it's that's a valance statement. I actually that actually happened to be believe it or not, I was I was walking about and I'm somewhat recognized where I live and you know someone, someone say hey. I said Hello, how are you, and then they you know, not well, and I'm like, Oh boy, yeah, here's you're right. I by degree is not. I have no medical degree whatsoever. So I really can't. I can. I can all I can give you as a hang in there or something like that. That's not going to help you. So it's so, if you're right, you could be opening up a can of worms when you ask that question. I recently talked to her front of mine, who is an owner of one of the restaurant breweries and the Rochester area, and unfortunately she had to close things down for because of this and I believe she's opening up in a small capacity now. She doing like a you know, hands free pick up our delivery services. But she's sad, she's she's just been sad because you know that atmosphere, especially if you work at a restaurant or a bar or anything, that it's a very social atmosphere and if you're a social person, all of a sudden you lose that social atmosphere, it can wear on you. They could definitely wear on you. I think we talked about this a couple weeks ago. So when all the settles and People think about what are the lessons of this, and do we look at incarceration and do something about solitary confinement? Yeah, that's because the funny thing is, I know we did talk about this, I think on the show and also off are before. The funny thing about solitary confinement in jail is it's forty eight million times worse than this. Is Right, because you don't have you don't have the luxuries of cable television or just getting up and walking around or even I mean, even though you can't interact people, you can still drive to the store or go somewhere if you want to. that. You can't do that in jail. You you literally see nobody but that, but but the warden, who walks with the warden, but the prison guard, whoever, who walks by every once in a while, and the walls. That's really pretty much you see in solitary and that, yeah, what does that do to you mentally? Because that's that's that's like this times a million. You know, yeah, exactly. So what do we how are we going to be rethinking an awful lot about the way we live? And if we don't, if it's if it's great, we can go back. Oh, that was horrible. That...

...was that was like the wizard that didn't end and I'm so glad now I shoveled out my driveway and I can forget. Forget about that. I think we missed opportunity look at look at things that you know, health disparities that we that we've talked about that. How do we address how do we address that? How do we address mental health? People in the mental health community. Think this has been good, is not the right word. Enlightening for people, for mental health, because now more people are aware of mental health needs. But is because we have to pay for all of this. Somehow. have to pay for COVID. That bill is going to come do and and all other things we're not going to be able to do because of the lack of funds because we have to pay the bills for COVID. Is Everything just going to get pushed aside again, and then what opportunity have we lost? Yeah, and I talked about that earlier the show. I do think that because of the economic disparity that covid has caused, that that's going to be pushed to the front, obviously over anything and a lot of other things are going to be pushing this side or even forgotten about, because the focus is going to be about, you know, getting our economy back up and running. So let me just personal question. How is how is doing these zoom things for you? Does that keep you because you can obviously with your with your friends who have technology, you can do like zoom meetings and stuff like that and you still have this kind of interaction. I guess you can see them but it's not. I mean're not sitting next to you in the room. Does that? Does that help at all? I don't do any outside of work. I don't do any zoom. I did I did one. I did one with a zoom conversation. You know, it is. It's a you know, to who do? I couple neighbors that I walk with. You know, we practice a distant thing. Absolutely, we can. or You walking, you wear a mask or right, whatever it's. It's so I've spoken to a couple of psychiatrists, professionally, their profession, not mine, even if I had no but I was doing some some articles. So I talked to a couple of psychiatrists and each of them independently said social distancing is not a great phrase. They prefer physical distancing. Yeah, the each of them. And it's funny. When I heard it from the first one, then I heard it from the second one, I texted the first one as the second one was talking and I said, Hey, do you know this guy? He's talking about physical distancing as as well. So I kind of like that. We're physically there's a proximity, you know, physically, the our proximity is further apart, but that shouldn't make us distant. Yep, Nope, I agree. I think that I should have been called that in the first place, because you don't want to end because a phone call social, you know, so you don't want to distant yourself from the phone call. You're you're right. It's the the physical touching, in the physical interaction is what we're trying to avoid. We're not trying to avoid actually talking to people. Maybe that maybe now people realize that, but maybe at the beginning that was a problem and maybe that led to some people's that feeling of isolation. By the way, when I when I joked their profession and mind you know what, see whoever you need to see to to help yourself through this time. I mean I, you know, for years on and off with the counsel or for grief and loss and various things, and we are back on our schedule and it's helpful to me. So definitely find whatever the professionals are who are going to help you through whatever difficulty, with mental health, physical health, counselors, whoever you can find that you need...

...to talk to, you know, to do that. But yeah, think of it. I mean, if you're struggling with that just trying to substitute the word physical for social right. That makes a just last thing I want to ask you before, before you get to a break here, after this ends, whenever it ends, whenever we are back to doing things that we normally do, I wonder how things are going to change. I wonder if people after even if there's a vaccine that comes out, which I who knows how long that's going to be out. I don't want to think, I don't want to put in anyone's mind that that's happening anytime soon. I'm just saying, even if a vaccine happens, and when and and we found a way to avoid getting this in the future, what is the impact on people after this? Or people going to be changed forever, or are they going to jump back, jump right back into all things were? I'm just kind of just curious about that. You know, the people ask me that would you go to a restaurant? The bad question asked me. I'm going to restaurants much anyway. I want to go by myself. Is that a lot of fun? So that kind of thing I do. What I go to? You know, I don't. There's a lot of things I don't do that the rest of the world does, and go to movies ever, go to restaurants occasion. I'll go out to hear some live music. When I do that again, you know, probably because what I mean, why not, you know, take take the precautions, trusting that the people who again have my health, and hopefully they have all the domains of my health and mind, not just my physical health in mind, are doing the reopening and saying we can do things in reasonable, you know, scientific ways. Why not? I don't. I mean I don't think we need to have movie theaters open right away. Be Perfectly honest with you, I think that that kind of thing can wait. I wore part time in a gym that I got to tell you it's probably going to be one of the last places that reopen simply because of there is no way to be physically distant. Yeah, that's hard facility. So I don't see that opening for it'd be nice a bit open by the fall, but I don't I'm not holding out much hope on that that I think it's going to be up to everybody's sort of risk benefit tolerance. I don't think people should be sloppy. I still think, you know, you. We should always be washing our hands. Yeah, be sneezing and coughing into into the Crook of your elbow. Ye, me of the things that you should do all the time. Right. Maybe this is the risk of sharing. You know, want to overshare, right, you don't want to sell. Don't overshare, don't take in from from other people. That's the grand social experiment. That that's what that's what we don't know. Let me tell you something. I can be honest with you, Patty. I missed the JIM. I miss it a lot. I was I was doing well at the gym, I guess. Actually, just yesterday went to my doctors just for a routine check up and overall health. I'm good, but I am up. I'm up a few pounds, up a few but what's the walking? I mean able to go out and walk? Able to get out and do yeah, I can, and I do every once a while. But it's that when I was at the gym I was doing you know, I was doing weights, I was doing all types of things and I was there. It's for me, when I'm at the gym is a different mindset than when I'm outside. When I'm at the gym, my mind says you're here, you need to put in the work. You know, when I'm outside is like, Oh, it's nice. I'll think a leashly walk and I don't know how long the walk is. Sometimes it's a decent ones, events not, but I've also, I definitely can tell you I'm not eating the healthiest either. So I think I don't know something about being at the gym kept my whole everything focus on. I'll focus on when I was eating and I'll focus on everything. And now I'm kind of like, Oh, I'm doing a lot of things and a lot of shows and recordings and stuff from home. So when I get a break, I...

...just kind of scarf something down and they get back to work, you know. So it's it's it's I missed the Jim Patty had missed it so much. Well, I guess so. Now now the personal trainer and me would come out and say, all right, so, how can you turn Your House into your gym? Right, how can you? How can you turn the outside into the gym when you go for a walk? You know you've got to do say you only have twenty minutes for a walk. How far can you go in this twenty minutes and then how far, the next time you have twenty minutes, can you go, you know, and measure some of the things. What I heard well off and tell people is when you're out for walk in the neighborhood, you have lots of landmarks. You can use your trees, telephone, put whatever. So if you find yourself leisurely walking, when you set some markers like do do an interval, basically from this tree to the end of the block. I'm going to walk faster, right. So you. So you're mix so you're almost turning in your turning in your walk into a gym workout by picking things. A guy go to walk faster between here and here. I can sort down and then my intervals of slowness will be I have to walk fast between five trees, I can walk slow between two trees, you know, and play games with yourself. And and because you don't know when you're give back to the gym. That sounds like it's important to you. How do you turn to every day you little gym right. You know what I needed that motivation. I'm I'm going to try, especially with the weather getting better on my trying to start doing more of that. But yeah, I was. I was sad because I made so much progress at the gym. All of a sudden us ago, looks like you're up a few darn it. But you know what, maybe off flights what they get down. Try to find ways that you can take that gym attitude, because Jim is just a building, but the attitude you have all the time. Yes, and I do know that true too. It's a it's funny that how my my mindset, Chane, is when I'm in a specific building. It should not, it shouldn't really matter, but I don't know why I did. It did, but hopefully I could again. That's the whole mental thing. Hopefully I can switch that around to and fix that. Well, as usual, Patty, you're you're always full of information and I appreciate everything. Again, real quickly. Reminder. You can listen, you can see all of these stories that Patty has talked about on this show on the minority reporter dotnet. Make sure you go there and definitely subscribe. The stories are are catered to our local area. So it's I think. I think it's a fantastic paper and I think you will too. So give it a chance. Subscribe to that and also, you can listen to Patty on our website inside the margins, radiocom and also on Iheart and Patty. Once again, thank you so much for being with us today. My pleasure, Matt. All right, when we come back, another clip from the Roxy Showcase and we'll see who we're talking about, who we're talking to this week. Will be right back. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom. Welcome back to inside the margins. Okay, real quick, I want to send a shout out to the black craft beer lovers and also the rock city beer facebook pages for sending pictures and and also suggestions for some of the most delicious beers around this city and pretty much in the country is as far as it comes to craft beer and and I was inspired to do my own thing because of those pages. I actually was. I actually received a kit from my wife, so Mr Beer Kit. It's a kit that you can use to make your own beer at home and we have a lot of time right now to kill, so I figured why not, I'll go ahead and make my own beer. So I'm going to document that process and put it on our new youtube page for the Rock city showcase. It's going to...

...be the rosy showcase if you want to search it on the youtube channels, and it's going to be the craft beer chronicles. I'm going to document the whole process of making this craft beer at my house. It's going to be an IP day also. I think what I'm going to do maybe monthly as I'm going to do a review on a craft beer just to inspire everyone to try new things. You know, again we're stuck at home, so why not try new and exciting things and and I think craft beer is delicious and it's a great way to pass the time. I just want to mention that real quick. All right, let's go ahead and play a clip from the rock city showcase. By the way, if you don't know by now, you can get the rock city showcase podcast pretty much anywhere. It's found everywhere right now. You can find it on I hurt radio or the IHEART APP for your smartphone, whether it's android or iphone. It's on Google's on Itunes, it's on it's everywhere, pretty much wherever you get your podcast. You can get the rock city showcase podcast and also it's on our website at inside the margins, Radiocom, as well as inside the margins of course, so you can check out there. Just want to make sure you knew that before we played this clip. Our next guests on the PODCAST is volatile. He is a hiphop producer, hip hop artist and a real estate agent, and that show should be released probably tomorrow on the Rock city showcase. So stay tuned for that. But but for now here's a clip from the rock city showcase and with that I will say goodbye and we will see you next week. Take care. This is the rock city showcase. You have worked with a lot of people. There's a lot of people all across the board, in the local sheet see and also other atmospheres of the hiphop you worked along a ton of people. WHO, or this is probably hard for you to answer, but who's? Look, who's were your favorite people? Yeah, you knew what you do. It was coming. Yeah, your fair people that you've worked with before. Yeah, I know, man, these interviews they always make you pick stuff and I know you know I really enjoyed working with rex last year. Number one, because we did a dope record together. And number two, because we did a video for it and I actually got so you talk about one of my favorite songs of all time. That's and now you know I'm not just saying that's what the Gash you up, Matt, because I know that as one of your favorite records. But it was cool to to hang out with him and he was really down Earth and everything and you know, we really kind of spent the day together and they actually kind of forgot about it too. We did the show here up in Rochester last October, so Adam up for a show to so you know, I kind of built a relationship with him, which was pretty dope because, number one, he's a MC that I enjoy and you know, then I was able to do a record with him. So but yeah, other than that, you know, if I had to pick people, I think you know I'm I going to pick golden because that's my six. You know, I love I love work with her and every time we have a session it's hilarious because we just go back and forth. You know, it's really like a it's really like a sibling, sibling thing, and so I always enjoy working with her and she's dope and she don't let me down on the MIC. So you know, that's probably important. That's that's part of the criteria. So okay. So let's talk about some of the projects that I've heard. No, actually, before hitting gold there, I want to talk about something that I I'm still sad about because I never had an opportunity really to take part of because I was just kind of coming up doing my own thing at the same time where you were blowing up at Buddha Poh. Yeah, yeah, huge, and everyone was going to though. You had all these...

...shows and all these different artists showcase at Buda pub, and I know I was supposed to be there for one of the there was a forgot what it was. I was supposed to judge something. I couldn't know. Yeah, that was the that was the beat battle. That was yeah, and I was like okay, next, no matter what happens next, I'm going to be there. And then it was over. Man. Yeah, if you do, you miss that, partner, because I thought there was a lot of dope things happening at that location. You know, that's a classic example of like really getting ahead of steam and then just like hitting the wall, man, because that that just kind of got pulled out from under us, man, and it was crummy because we got pulled out from under us and, like you said, it was it was going for almost basic, about two and a half years. Yeah, you know, we did. We did a ton of shows, we did the monthlies and then we also did like a lot of one off shows, like determined rex show to be battle. But more than anything, it was it was really picking up steam towards the end, I think, you know, in the last year, because we did a lot of more. We did a lot more branching out as far as upstate goes and try to incorporate more people from Buffalo, more consistent people, Sarah keeps more consistently. You know, the goal was always just to to bring in more people, bringing all the people that you can and kind of unite the scene, because everyone was doing dope stuff in their own right. So you know, obviously you know, you know about buffalo and they're all the dope cast of the Gout of their aside from from Griselda, you know, put them included as well, you know. So just cultivating that scene for so long was really dope to me and I'm glad to be a part of it that I wasn't part of. I wish, like you said, that it didn't go away or that we had an alternative. You know, unfortunately, since then we just haven't had a pin you, that's willing to do the same give us the same type of opportunities that we do. You have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins, we would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom.

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