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Episode 30 · 2 years ago

The Shooting of Jacob Blake and Problems with the Democratic Party in Rochester

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We discuss the Shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha Wisconsin and issues with the Democratic party in Rochester

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...you don't do that. It's a quala path. Three girls it don't be shown. Sins too. Don't. You might be the best, and so it's got it. Bet. So what you'RE gonna do? You gotta Stop Playing Games, but you gotta stop faking. It's a qualify three girls to girls. You're listening to you inside the margins on one hundred nine wx, ir extreme independent radio and Rochester's Urban Alternative Music Station. All right, it welcome back to inside the margins. Okay, I'm here with Patty and before we talk about the Democrats, just want to talk about what happened with the shooting involved involving Jacob Blake. Now, Jacob Lake was the African American who was shot seven times in the back, allegedly while reaching into a web, we should do, his car to get a weapon and I guess it's children were in the car as well, so that kind of makes it a little worse because as children, had to watch him get shot seven times in the back. So here's my question, Patty. I think these the incident word Jacob Blake was shot, and the seventeen year old kid who had the assault rifle, who shot three people and killed two during the same the protests that were happening out there are two separate things to look at. But I think the reason why there's some unresting regards to this is because you have one instant instance where this African, can American man is shot in the back seven times while allegedly reaching for a weapon. Again, I don't want to go all the way into that because I don't have all the details. I don't think anyone does yet. But the way, just the way, just for face value, it appears that he was going into his car and possibly teaching for something. It's not been confirmed if there was anything there or not, but possibly reaching for something and he was shot seven times in the back. And there were other other officers there too. Is that just one? But one officer is the one that fire the shots and you know he woke up. You know he's paralyzed now and that's unfortunate. And the same protests, here's a seventeen year old white kid with an assault weapon full, you know, in full frontal view, with everyone can see it. He's brandishing it. He's part of this militia group, apparently, that went to that protest and before anything happened there, the cops are thanking them for the assistance and handing them out bottles of water. And then later, all later on, when there's like, you know, some the protest get more involved, that's when the incident occurs. Where he shoots three people, kills two of them, he's not arrested, he's allowed to leave and go home, and his homes not even in the same city. He came from a different city to attend this protest, was able to go home and then a day later he was arrested after after all, people were kind of protesting that he was there and he got any got away with it. So I think that when you look at those two in contrast, I think that's what the what the problem is with a lot of people. What are your thoughts on that? Well, there, there's so much too yeah, com and there, because these two things are, you know, one one wed to the you know the other, or the second was a reaction. Right, right. So let's talk about let's start with Mr Waite. Start off with that. To me, again, from how far away away from Kenosha, Wisconsin, here in Rochester...

...new yeah, right, right, miles away from a thousand miles away, it certainly looks like there is a training issue, a training problem, either with that individual officer or with that police department. How do you recognize now, granted, this is happening in the blank of an eye. We don't have instant repress event where you can go slow, mow the whole bit. The officers see this in real time. They don't have a luxury of looking looking at the film like people do when we do body worn camera footage and things like that, but still in real time were what is the training that helps these officers recognize threats and levels of threats? What is their training with their weapons? I think one of the officers involved with if I read correctly, was a seven year had been on the force for saying. Yes, there's a good chance that that officer never drew a weapon in seven of the years. I mean, I don't any no officer wants to draw their weapon. What is their training in weapons? They have semi automatics. Those are seven shots could go off incredibly quickly. In fact, I watched the show one time, police related show whatever, but one of the episodes was about how you recognize what you've done, and it was this person who was supposed to oversee the department, you know, the big expert at all. I know everything. So they ran this person through this drill or shooting drill right and then you'll how many shots that you fire? I shap fired three. No, you fired eight and this was someone who was allegedly trained to again, it's TV, it's correctly, but the point, the point they were trying to make, is that under pressure you may not remember everything that you've done. That's why body camera footage is so important for everybody, for the officers and for the public. So to go back here training systemically in that department for threats, training for weapons, weapons use. How often do they have to re certify? I mean, I think there's an awful lot to look at at some point in this investigation of what is that department and what are other departments? For the department's close to home here in Rochester. What are they learning from this? Right is, what do we have to do in training for threats and training for how to handle weapon? It's now shooting in the back again from a thousand miles away. How quickly did this person turn? Again? This is will come out with with body camera footage from multiple angles to see that. Nevertheless, we go back to the seven shots when day the person may turn right and then you thought you fired when they were facing you. Not, but that goes back to the weapons training. Six more times. Right, what's going on here? You know, I don't want anybody rushing to judgment here, because we need to use this as education for all of us, for citizens and for police and for protesters and for people calling for justice. We have to, I believe, my opinion, we have to start looking at these as opportunities, once we get past the emotion, look at these as opportunities of where we have to do better. Absolutely, that would be US too. That would lead us to the response. We have to do better in a response. Why on God's Green Earth is a militia involved in what is supposed to be a law enforcement activity? So I think a lot of people, okay, now, as a white woman, I will say that I think a lot of people want a police course that is well trained, well prepared, can respond to a variety of situations, whether that is a mental health situation or whether that is a crime in in progress there. If you have those things, if you have a police force that is well trained, well prepared and able to respond to a variety of situations, why do they need a militia that probably is none of those right? Why are you asking for trouble? Right now? I agree with that. I think right as soon as the malicious showed up. They should have turned them away and said, listen, I understand why you're here. I understood what you know. However you want to say to calm them down, but you just got a little bit not listen. We have legal ramifications that can happen if you get involved with stuff here. So we cannot have you actively walking around with guns threatening citizens. You know, that...

...will take care of what's happening here. You go back to work, you know, whatever, whatever, especially the fact this kid is seventeen years old. He's not even legally allowed to carry the fire. If you look at the picture of them, he looks like he's seventeen years old. He doesn't look like I got to grow an adult. So the fact that they allowed him to walk around brandishing this large weapon. Now remember the Guy I who by Jacob Lake, who was shot in the back allegedly was getting a knife, a small knife, that was on the ground of his car. This guy is brandishing of an AAR fifteen assault rifle and he's seventeen walking around freely with it. I think there's something wrong there. You know what I mean? There is an and it's often if you're not there, you you can't. It's hard to comment because, yeah, everything we're getting is filtered through. So, yeah, right, even the video, even the video we see. We don't know if video has been altered and I think and I think in this day and age, when you look at video, you have to ask that question. Could it be altered? Could have been editor things at it up? One of the things in this is may be a digression, maybe not. One of the things that concerns me is even in this community, police will be called to a scene and then someone will post, start posting video of that on Facebook, right, without clearly what precipitated it and without clearly how it's resolved. So they may still post forty five minutes of something. UN let you say it's a fifteen second clip, right. We don't know what was at the beginning. We don't really know what was at the end. We only know what it is that that person is choosing to post. Force if it's the whole thing, it's facebook, like say this is the whole thing from facebook. You know, provide us some context so we have a for understanding. Were also getting only one angle. That that's why when police go over body camera footage, it is from every person who was involved. When reporters or anybody biles freedom of information for body camera footage, the request will be all body worn camera footage of all officers involved, because then you see from all different angles. Is it confusing? Yes, because often you just get, I mean I have, I have foiled is the word we use for body camera footage, and I've gotten five hours of footage right right. It's like good luck to me. Right, try to figure out without it, without a really a narration of WHO's of WHO's what. So sometimes be careful what you wish for. But that's where, that's where you need to see all that. You need to see all these angles. So we don't. We don't have that. So again we're a thousand miles away from Wisconsin trying to make sense of this and it's very difficult to make sense of something that just seems bizarre. Why you allow militia your turf? I mean again, I know I kill you with that air when I just pause and Shrug and froll my hands on the I just I don't understand why a professional police force would allow a militia. No, you're trying to process it just like I am. So I it's okay. I totally get that everything, because you're sitting here trying a process. Okay, the these people who are paid to protect and serve and it's your job to hang even though it's a tough job. No one's saying it's not a tough job and it's a dangerous job and you can get into altercations that can add end up in some sort of conflict where people get injured. Totally understand that. But your this is your job, just like people in the military. It's their job to protect the country. Your job is to protect the community, to protect and serve the militia. These guys who you don't know how they're trained, if they're trained, who has guns, if they have the guns legally or illegally, they're just coming in saying hey, we're here to help. You don't know that their background, if there's convicts that are part of this militia, there's a lot of, you know, opportunities for bad things to happen when you have an unchecked, unprofessionally trained crew of people who are armed to the teeth saying we want to handle this situation you, when you're a professional. That's so besides it. But think about the second amend a well regulated militia. Right, right, so we don't even know if these folks will wrote. Well, now they may drill, you know, on...

...their wall. That's all every other. That's great, but but there's no sense of regulation for that now. So we have a lit teacher society to begin with. What prevents anyone from the ensuing Kenosha for allowing the militia that then has somebody on it who kills two people and wounds another. I mean, I would just think from a legal standpoint. Going back to your point, I mean, Hey, folks, thanks, but no thanks. And if you don't leave and took the weapons away, I don't know what the carry laws on this concert right exactly? I don't either. First we will need to arrest you for obstructing governmental administration. You know, you have to go. You have to leave, right. That's no, no, because what you're saying, what you're saying is right. If that happened, that avoids anything else from happening. If immediately you just stop this militia from walking in. And again, you're right. I don't know the carry laws there. I don't want to pretend that I do, but if you can just say, Hey, listen, we have been called in to handle this situation. We appreciate that you guys want to help, but please stay out of this, you know. Please put your weapons away and walk away and let us do our jobs. If not, will be forced to, you know, have charges against you. I'm not saying seeing mean where you can be could be nice about it, but just don't allow them to actively participate and brandish weapons and point them at people. That because eventually someone who's not professionally trained, such as a seventeen year old who will illegally is carrying a gun, may all of a sudden do something that they shouldn't do, like shoot three people. You know what I mean. Well, and the other thing too, is all right. So a lot of old lady and I worry now about, you know, everybody safety. So so if I'm part of this militia, and maybe if I'm pint of this motion, maybe I'm not thinking of this. They go. So part of this, I'm part of this militia, I have a gun and there's a lot of chaos around me. How does the law enforcement know that I'm on their side? Right hand part of the Guy Militia? It doesn't see me in the chaos, or here's somebody with a gun, boom, and I don't end up getting killed because I'm carrying a gun in a chaotic situation. And they did. They have signs on are bad to say I'm with the militia. Yeah, I think they were all dressed similar. But yeah, I think they were wearing similar attire. I believe I got this is what this is here say. So this is these, this is fats, but apparently they were wearing similar attire, this green like camouflage. He's a type of a type of tire. But again, you're right, you don't know. If stuff you straggle away from the group, who knows who you are. You know what I mean. Well, I mean exactly. It's just yeah, I just it bothers my mind. So what if what had happened here on May thirty, I believe, was when we had our incident here in Rochester, or subsequent times when one of the groups want to do block four hundred and ninety? What would have happened if a group comes in and says we're the militia and we want to help you, Monroe Conny Sheriff and State police and Rochester Police Department. We're going to help you control this crowd. What? Right, yeah, what? Yeah, no, no, here's something that before we move on to to our next topic, just one thing I want to just putting everyone's mind. Just think of it this way and again, I don't know if things would have been different, but what would have in the response if the militia was all African American? Just putting that out there. You know. Well, right, and the thing is that this is not a game. This, what we're going through in this country, is unlike anything anyone's seen in yeah, it's six hundred years, because you've got a pandemic, we have social unrest, the S, we have a pandemic. No, we did not. You're right. And so this has been and we have a presidential election coming up this this is not a game, people. This is very serious and if you want to be think you want to be...

...part of a militia and that you're going to be solving the problems, I don't make sure you're solving them and not causing additional, additional problems. And this is an era where, in an era of pluralistic thinking, your way is right for you, but it is not necessarily right for everybody else, and I think we have to learn, individually and collectively, that we need to hear other people and listen to other people. Not everyone is going to be happy. Now, I was going to be happy with solutions, but I think the thing is that somebody wants to be heard and somebody wants an explanation of why we have to do it this way now, right, Hey, I've always said it. This is why I love the manual reporter, because it's from information to understanding. Does it mean that I have to agree with what you every we all have different thoughts, but the best way to to be able to live together or live as a community is to at least have some sort of understanding, and that's the most important thing. If you don't have that, if you refuse to understand what the other person is thinking or maybe going through and you just kind of stand hard on your thoughts, we have problems and and that that's that's where we are right now. But that but I think what you said is interesting because I think that people will dig in when they feel threatened. Think about think about your own family. Think about when you have to you this discipline with your kids and you have to end and and they're going to dig in when they're feeling attacked. Right now. I'm not saying that everything is up for negotiation. You can negotiate everything and and everything is consensus. There's some things have to be the way they have to be. I think even in that situation there is a way to give someone some room to come to that on their own. I mean, otherwise you have dictatorships and and you know, we've read in the last few days and Belarus is a crackdown there authoritarian rule. People now are tired of it for a variety of reasons. So authoritarian rule is will not last forever and we're hoping to Maxley has a few more years left in it. But authoritarian rule isn't going is it going to last forever, because people need some some room to maneuver and feel that they are being heard. Absolutely what what's up? What some protests? I think, how some people react to protest. They feel that the protesters are not the protesters are angry in their emotional and they have every right to be right, absolutely, just in that at some point there needs to be a discussion and I think there's a there may be a feeling that all we want to do is protest. And when do we have? When do we have the discussion part? When do we when do we try to come together on that? And that, I think, will allow for people who are feeling, you know that they are, that they are attacks solely for being white, solely for being suburbanite. So we for being being able to afford their home and being able to afford their mortgages in their rent during covid to say hey, ie, I hear you, I want to help you, but don't, don't attack me just because of my accident of birth, just like your accident of birth. You want black, I was born like. Nothing we can do about that. What do we do from this point on to create a try to create some sense of justice, knowing that in our society there are there are going to be halves. We're going to be have not, and let's try to have more, have psalms. I like that last part because you're right. Everyone, I wish, and we're going to move on to our next topic, I wish everyone could see exactly how you set that last portion. Or listen, I was born black, you were born white. We didn't choose this. This is just how we came out. We are at this. So instead of trying to put us against one another, let's just try to figure out how we can work together and and both be successful in life, not try to, you know, be mad at each other for certain situations that may have happened. Because you're right, there's a lot of bad things that happen in the past. Absolutely, but today, if you're born today is a white person and you're born today as a black person, you didn't really have anything to do what happened then. You have something to do, though, what will happen in the future, and that's the important thing. I am responsible for how I greet you on the s street, how I talk to you in a store, how I how I work with you. I'm Ryan...

...response when you're right, from this point forward, that that would be the same as me saying to somebody born in Germany in the same year I am that you are responsible for the Holocaust. Right, they're not. They're not. They're responsible for what happens now, for Anti Semitism now, their reaction Anti Semitism now, but I cannot hold them responsible for what happened in one thousand nine hundred and thirty nine parents grandparents perhaps, but that person I may want to but I have to realize they have the choices that they are going to make now, so like I have to, because I am going to make now. All right, perfectly said, I agree with that. that. I could not agree more with that. Okay, now let's get back into old some more local topics here. What's going on with the Democrats? By Patty, it's there's a whole bunch of this. A lot of things happening with the Democrats. What's going on again? Dead are yeah, they screwed up into a question mark. Depends who you ask. You know if it was. I don't know how many of our listeners the old enough to remember when President Reagan was shot. Yes, I after after that, Alexander Haig, seat secretary of stage whatever he was at the time, walked into a news conference and announced I'm in charge here. Yes, I do remember, I'm in charge. As I left the news conference held by legislator Vince elder, who was claiming still to be the minority leader, as I was walking back to my car, I could see Alexander Haig saying I'm in charge here, you know, just proclaiming that right now to catch people up. There have been nine of the Democrats. So legislature has twenty nine seats, fifteen or held by Republicans, Fourteen by Democrats. Republicans are in the majority. Republicans can vote anything they want along party lines. Democrats obviously know that there has been some bipartisans bipartisanship this year on some particularly on some diversity issues. There's been some some crossing of the aisle on that. Democrats have gotten some Republican allies on something. Actually, when they when they've done some of the diversity that's been a number of allies. And mean once after the election and when Carlo Boyce, who had brought to the floor and had passed the anti harassment bill that had the big que and cry, she rescinded that and everybody signed on the whole legislature signed and resending that. Recently there was some diversity legislation put forth. That was worked on across across the aisle. So they've been able to work together. However, one thousand five fourteen, the Democrats do have a task if they want their legislation and Adam bellows agenda M to move forward. So the board of Elections Commissioner had been an issue for several months. That got there is a democratic board of Elections Commissioner. I'm going to say necessary to settle, because some folks in the democratic side are still fighting that. So Jackie Ortie's last week was sworn in as the board of Elections Commissioner and she named as her deputy Natalie Shepherd, will be leaving the school work to do that. In all this going on, there has been some of the demo. Nine of the Democrats have questioned the leadership of Mr Felder as a minority leader. So last week, beginning of last week, they voted to name a new leader, who is your ser a Roman. So go to the legislature meeting on last Tuesday night where they are supposed to move many bills out of committee so that the next legislature meeting everybody can vote on these, including things like bellows plan to have an addictions person somewhere overseeing all the addictions work in the county and his department of Diversity, equity and inclusion. Those bills were supposed to come out of committee. Comes time for a vote and the Dr Carlones, president of the legislature. It Republican ends the meeting because he is he says, he goes. It's no secret there's some fighting over who's the leadership of the Democratic Party. I'm not going to get involved in that. Will come back when that's been clarified. Meeting adjourn gavel comes down, boom zoom, screen goes black. All right, so it's almost like who's in charge here? Right? So nine, nine...

...people voted for you should have a Roman. There are. So the next day, that Wednesday, as we read in the headlines or in a SLAGO, Mitchell and three of his colleagues announced that they will be a black and Asian caucus, because it's a black and Asian caucus, and do an independent caucus which they say will work with Republicans and Democrats to promote an agenda that helps city residents and helps the people in their in their districts, their constituents. Their claim is that Republicans aren't listening to the needs of city residents and that some of the Democrats aren't listening to means of the city residents. Now, as we know, the city is Democrat and the county is earned some democratic seats in the legislature. But the county is primarily Republican right. So it's a it's a difficult job for the for the Democrats, to really push your dinner. Now they've got the first democratic county executive since Tom Fry, basically in a generation. So the board of elections issue is casting the shadow. Believe it was last Wednesday of the nine people who voted for Miss Roman to be the leader hold a meeting. She calls a meeting. They hold a meeting to a point. Jackie Ortez, who had been elected by the Monroe County Democratic Committee, fill the board of elections position. She calls the role. There are five people who are not in attendance, the for people from the WHO want the Black and Asian caucus, MR felder. So they vote nine nothing to approve Jackie Ortez. A day later she's sworn in. The day after that she makes you know her change, bringing in that Wie Shepherd, and I imagine that this week we have a board of elections that will be fully functioning. So felder holds a news conference to claim that all of that whole, those machinations, were invalid, that he is still a leader of the Democratic Caucus. So I asked him, how is this going to be resolved. He says it will be resolved. How do you know? But okay, so I said, I asked him. I said so, but you were not signed on to the Black and Asian Caucus, but you're, he goes on, the leader of the Democratic Caucus. Okay, so that means you're not part of the other. So then he told an anecdote of that when he was in high school and he had a break up on high school breakup that his mother had told him you cannot make people like you, you cannot make people love you, you cannot make people follow you. So but yet there was no definitive of how the how this will resolve. I think we can all survise how it may resolve. When nine people voted to have somebody else be their leader, nine out of fourteen, I think you can kind of figure figure that out. But there are some some undercurrents to this. And at when Vince felder held his news conference, he had pastor Melvin was with him and the pastor was talking about how for years Democratic politicians, leaders and politicians not necessarily the same. They can embody the same person, but not necessarily. The Democratic politicians have come to the black community asking for the black vote and then there is a feeling among some people in the black community that you get the vote and then you kind of go and do what the agenda was, at which point he was saying, you know, maybe maybe democratic colleges can't take that for granted and maybe should think about Republicans. But it was it was hard for me, having listened, having been at both news conferences and having been at the news conference where Ernest flagle Mitchell gave the rationale of this caucus by saying when we talk with people in the when we talked about legislate legislators who represent the suburbs, that talking about dog parks. We don't need. That's not the issue in the city. We have we have other issues. So everybody representing the suburb, not everybody represent the suburbs, but the there are some Democrats who represent the suburbs, but by and large the county's Republican. I guess my question would be, if the Republicans, what is it the Republicans stand for and do they stand for your values? And what you see is the problem. Is the problem in Pittsburgh the same as the problem on Clinton Avenue, the same as in the nineteen ward the same as in the South Wedge, the same as,...

I'm dewey. If you align with people who you said have fundamentally different approaches to things, then how do you serve your constituents? I think it's a great question. You know, it's funny because I know we were talking earlier about the whole housing situation. That's also one of your stories as well, and you make a good point about what what your issues are depending on your location, because obviously I think in a town like Pittsford housing is probably not a problem, people probably aren't having those those kind of issues, but in the city, different story. And the reason why I say that as you're right, I do think you need people to kind of represent issues from each separate location because each separate location has different issues. I also want to mention that every time I hear you talk about these things I realize how tough your job is. So thank you for continue to talk to these people, because you don't get clear answers a lot of times when you ask a simple question to these folks that kind of dance around the actual issue. All right, thank you so much. Don't forget, guys, make sure you check out the minority reporter dotnet in order to get the full versions of the headline news stories that you heard earlier in there in the show, and also, please feel free to subscribe to the minority reporter. That's the best way to support local journalism and hear the stories that are important to you and your community. And also there's also always a link on our website at inside the margins radiocom thanks a lot, Pattie. Always appreciate it. Well, definitely might appreciate you. Thanks so much. Thank you all right. We'll go on take a break. We'll back with some I'm thoughts. This is inside the this is one hundred point nine FM, extreme independent radio, your urban alternative. I'm sure my swe let that I'm not. While I said she said should never turn on your life. I've never your life. I do. She said should never turns you're listening to inside the margins on one hundred nine...

...wx ir, extreme independent radio and Rochester's Urban Alternative Music Station. Welcome back to inside the margins. Okay, some final thoughts. Just want to go ahead and discuss the death of actor Chadwick Boseman. He was a beloved actor, especially in the African American community. He's best known for his role in the movie Black Panther, but he's also done some iconic films and parts in his career. He Played Jackie Robinson in the movie forty two, he played James Brown in the movie get on up in two thousand and fourteen and he played the legendary thirdgood Marshal, who you know, is one of the first, is the first African American who served on Supreme Court. He played that in marshal and two thousand and seventeen. So He's won a bunch of any NAACP image awards and a screen actors Guild Award, so he is well known for all the work he's done as an actor. is also very highly endorsed and coached by legendary actor and Denzel Washington. He's only forty three years old when he died from complications of colon cancer, and that's very sad. It's it's it's sad that he died so young and it's sad that he had to pretty much hide the fact that he had that condition and he continued to work through his illness. And it just comes at a time where having leadership in the African American community is so important and he was somebody who just kind of fit that profile, somebody you could look up to, who represented the best all the best qualities that you could be as an African American male, and it's sad to see that he lost his life so young and to colon cancer, which usually you don't even test for until you're in your S. he's actually the same age as me, born in seventy six. So just a reminder of two things. One, life is short, so if you have ambitions or you have goals, need to get to work on those because you don't know when life's going to be taken from you. And also something that my wife and my friends always tell me as you got to get yourself checked out. You got to make sure that you're you're staying healthy and you're doing things to be as healthy as possible. I recently started dieting myself. I'm trying to live a better and healthier lifestyle. But that's not just that. You got to check your history, your family history, because if you have a history of cancer and your family, there's a good chance that you may be up next as far as getting that disease. So you want to know what you can do to take precautionary measures and lead as healthy of a lifestyle as you can do to avoid, you know, unfortunately coming to your end because of those called, those complications. So just wanted to say rest in peace, Chadwick Boseman. Great, great accuracies and he just from what I've read about him, he seems like a very, very fantastic individual and I know the whole country mourns his loss. So wish, I wish we didn't lose such a such a gifted young man. All right, thank you so much for tuning into inside the margins. We will be back next week with the brand new episode. Until then, take care. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or question since to inside margins at gmailcom. You're listening to one hundred point nine fmx IRLPO is, Rochester, New York, home of extremes, independent radio. Find US add one thousand hundred and nine WX IRCOM on the way. It's just one of them days when I wanna be alone. Is just one of them days when I gotta be just one only don't you think I treat you? Don't...

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