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Episode · 9 months ago

Harassment in the Field

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Patti and I talk about a female reporter being harrased and cat called, local meetings to stop gun violence, and COVID cases on the rise. We also feature music from local recording artists D Larceny, M Doc Diego and Volatile.

Marginalized groups can be the target of negative beliefs, behaviors or judgments from others. On this show we seek out marginalized voices and perspectives and tackle some of the conflicts and issues these groups face. Now is the time to have your voice heard. This is inside the margins with your host, Matt Wilson. Hello, welcome to inside the margins. I'm your host, Matt Wilson, and today's Monday again and we're back, as we are here every Monday at three o'clock. So we always enjoy you joining us. So thank you so much for listening to inside the margins. So today I saw something over the weekend. I saw something involving a female reporter that was kind of disturbing and I really wanted to just talk about that because I luckily I am joined every week by the wonderful man, magnificent patty singer, who has been doing journalism for quite a while and she's very she's been in the field a lot, so she so she's encountered a lot of things. So I just kind of wanted to go back and forth of this. So first let me introduce from the minor reporter, Patty Singer, hello, Patty, good afternoon tea, and that happy week. Happy Week to Youtube. I appreciate my friend, all right, so I sent you a link to that thing that I said I saw and that we're not going to mention any names or anything like that, but there was a the video shows a an African American, Young African American female reporter out in the field getting set up to do a story in the neighborhoods, a little sketchy, I believe, and she's being harassed by African American men there. She's being kind of hit on, cat called and a lot of profanity being used, and you know and you can tell that she was very uncomfortable and probably getting a little nervous in the situation and I felt for her because I thought it was to number one for me to meet was disgusting. The the behavior was disgusting by these Buddies Gentlemen, while woman calling jumping BUDDI's men. And number two is, let me think, how many female reporters come across this because, Patty, especially in today's age, a lot of reporters are MMJ now let me explain it to you. If you don't understand what that means, that's some multimedia journalists and they have to do pretty much everything right, patty, that to carry their own cameras, to up their own shots, that do all this up themselves. So sometimes you're in the field by themselves. So I'm just I want to ask you, Patty, as a person has been the field many, many times, do you have you been putting in any awkward situations where you were uncomfortable? And how? When you saw this video, how did it make you feel? Yeah, it was. I mean, had this person been alone? To me, that's the time you pack up and you leave. Yep, and you don't and you don't do the story because, say, personal safety is the most important thing. She had a camera person with her, so there were two of them, but still, you know, I would have to wonder what the camera man was thinking at that time, right as as well. When? When's the time that you just is this is isn't worth it, and all we see on the twitter feed is just as a little snippet. We don't know what you know, it's happened and the report is trying to deflect it. You know, why are you here? You know? Well, watch fact, watch spectrum news, okay, and and you'll find out that a TV and watch it. And so she's trying to she's trying to deflect them and stay focused on what she needs to do. But it's it's heckling, it's cat calling, it's it's very difficult and it is a it creates a hostile environment for this individual who's just trying to do her job, which is report on news event in that in that going on. Yeah, in that neighborhood something, and and from what? Again, looking at the feed, it seemed pretty benign. I think it was just a...

...general sort of feature thing. There was no crime involved. Right, exactly, a general short of there was an event going on there. They send somebody to cover it. So there's certainly nothing, you know, nothing for the neighbors to get worked up about and rances person just they are doing a story on whatever's happening in the neighborhood. Yep, they're right. Yeah, you know, and you're right. And and you know it's reporters of whatever media, whatever whatever media out what you work for, being asked to do more on their own. I mean often a reporter for print will also be their own photographer, right, exactly, correcting for TV, they will male and female, will often be their own photographer as well, and that creates a difficult situation. It can create a difficult situation for both, because you're one person. Yeah, yeah, you know, and there are several people who may want to talk with they may have a legitimate thing they want to talk to you about, but you don't know that. Yeah, you know, and you're there to do a job and the focus is difficult because you're focusing on your job. You can't focus. It's difficult to focus on the things going on around you as well. Yeah, because your you've got to focus on the job. So my situation to mean I haven't been her, I haven't faced what this person did in the in the field, because for the most part I would be in a situation on the street with the pack. You're right. So when there's a when there's a pack of people. There was a instance when the attorney general came to Rochester to say that the officers and Daniel prude we're not going to be there, was not going to any charges against them and she met it met in a church. He'll the news conference in a church, okay, and there were people who afterwards came to the church to protest what had happened and there was concerned for us in the church. That e said. I held us back for a while. Sure, you know, let's see where the protest go. Whenever. And finally, you know, we're saying we can't, we can't be in here forever. All the reporters, we all want, we what aside entrance, but we all went out at once. So there were they must have been twenty reporters and camera people walking out right, right, right, going in the group. We. I didn't feel out of a we. There were a group of of us. We went to our cars. We drove away the protests outside. We don't. I don't know what happened. Yeah, you know, but you get you felt last you felt safe in that situation, in that situation to but when you when you're on your own. So the most of the instances that I would have had something even close to that was when I was covering baseball. Okay, I covered all the professional sports, but this was primarily. Every uncomfortable incident I had was with a baseball team. Gotcha, I got you different baseball teams, but every uncomfortable incident was with the baseball team, right, was it? Like a locker room type situation. I heard room situation, Club House, clubhouse situation. At your reason, they call at the clubhouse. Understand. Understood. Understood. Yeah, so this is a situation. This was a team that was notorious for harassing female reporters, and so I was in there again. I'm with the pack, Yep, pawing to a particular player and I'm noticing that this player is looking just at me. I'm not asking any question, right, this player is just locked locks on you. Yeah, yeah, and I'm thinking, great, what is going on behind me? Yeah, I'm not going to turn around, I'm going to just lock on this player because something's happening. Yep, I don't want to know, I just don't. Yep. But it's a different situation. No, one, they were not. They were doing something to try to probably get my attention. Yep, but I wasn't. You weren't breaking it right, but I wasn't in a situation because I was with other people. This person was talking to a bunch of...

...people, answering their questions, but looking at me right. So I leave. I leave a clubhouse, I go upstairs and all of a sudden all the reporters from that team are like you. Okay, I said, I said, something was going on behind me. I don't know what it was. Right, I didn't turn around. So I had some people very much defending me, saying we need to register complaint with the management of this team because this is another incident that happened because these people traveled with the team. This team was the visiting team. So I didn't you know, I'd have to deal with them outside of these you know, this, this home stand for the team. I call right, right, so and I and there was one reporter said, well, she's got an editor. That editor can that editor can complain if they want. Totally dismisses. Wow, as we would say in a domestic violence yeah, Realm Yeah, minimization, denial and blame. Yep, minimizing the incident, basically denying it happened and blaming me. Yeah, making you feel like this. Yet right for, you know, for being there, and a couple other people from that team covering that team said no, we know this, we have to do this is enough. Is Enough. We've seen this go on throughout the league. We're going to do something about this. Right. So, whatever was done was done. I don't recall as like thirty years ago. So the next day I go into the clubhouse before the Games is, you know, the clubhouses are open or certain pier time. Sure, and you get your problems right and something had something had been said and there was some the way they were acting. Would they? They had been, you know, their little risk had been slapped. Yep. And but I knew I ended up leaving basically before before I started laughing at them. Right, right, right. I just I made my presence felt, I was there. I did something just, you know, kind of Proforma, just to show, okay, you can't, you know, you can't run me off. Yep, I'm still here, I'll still doing this. Right. And and I left because it just was it wasn't going to go well if I just started laughing at them. Right, it right, and the sense they were just acting foolish right now. And so, yeah, and but I've had that happen with you know. That's the most egregious and again I still don't know what they did. I can guess. Yeah, it reflects more on them than it then it does. I mean, I never turned around because I, you know, when I saw this guy staring at me, you know, I can't turn around, Yep, because that's just going to pull lay into them, it's going to fluster me. Yep, I don't. You know, I don't need it. I'm here to I'm here to do a job, right, but yeah, I mean there's that stuff. There's that stuff constantly that you know, female reporters deal with, you know, and I've had real gentlemen in in Clubhouser, right. Yeah, I mean I just incredible gentlemen and I've had little boys, person, little boys, right, yeah, stuff we can't say in the air, probably right, but but it's it's you know, have I ever felt unsafe? I mean that may have been the only time, but there were enough people around me that I felt nothing was going to happen to me. Right, I can't say that for this. I've never been in a situation that this woman was in where I felt unsafe. Yeah, at a scene I felt uncomfortable. There's a there's a differences, there's a different I've been, I've been UNCOMFORTAB will numerous times. I don't know that I ever felt unsafe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like. So I wonder, Patty, and again I I don't. I'm at out and feel like that I'm in. I'm pretty much a broadcaster right, so that this so I'm using the studio or something like that. But I...

...just wonder if it's a good idea when you have, I mean you don't want to disrespect anybody. You don't want to, you know, try to have the big strong guy protect a woman, you know, because you could. That can come off a little jerky too. But still, when you're sent, when you're sending young female reporters into neighborhoods that have known that that could be troublesome. I think it's probably a good idea to make sure that they don't go alone. Like, like you said, luckily this camera man was there, but a lot of times, I think, I think this, this reporter even said her and one of her twitter feeds up that a lot of time she's gone by herself. A lot of time she's gone to do stories on her own because she's an n Mj, she's a multimedia journalist, so she'll so she will bring the camera herself and set up the shatterself and just do it herself sometimes. But in this instance that she she's luckily was with somebody. This could have this could have gone I mean it was already bad enough, but it could have been so much worse if it was just her, you know. Well, but then then you bring up issue use of can what is, quote unquote, Woman's work. Right, yeah, issues, all right, you say it's a very good point, very good points. WHO HAVE BEEN HASSLED? Yeah, right, and in neighborhoods. You know the I had a I had a photographer, a colleague say to me. I remember the situation, but I don't know if it was put. I just in general. Somebody's in a neighborhood where they had been some news event for your people. They're right, right, and I think this was a while ago. It's just maybe ben years ago. And somebody said to him the people across the street are I in your cameras? Oh Wow, yeah, so he got tipped off. Okay, thank you, because he's again he's paying attention to the scene that he has to photograph, not necessarily. I mean, yes, you need situational awareness, but you're you get distract at how many places can you look? Yeah, so I remember him. You know, this is a man. He's telling me that they were, you know, take you know, you may want to be aware that they're you know they're watching you from across the street. Yeah, okay, you're watching me from here. Thank you. I mean again, where do you you know what's what's everybody's motive? Yes, sense this motive was just hey, you know, heads up, buddy. Yeah, kind of thing. So what do you think, Patty? That maybe? So let's make this maybe, maybe more general. Maybe they shouldn't have obviously companies need to do the reason why MMJ's exist for two reasons. Number one, it's good to be multitalented and able to do things on the go. You can be in a situation you could just take care of everything. Number two, obviously it's money. Right. Fine, financially it's cheaper to have one person out then going to bunch of people out. But in general, when when a story, whether it's a man or woman, and you're going to maybe areas where that are a little dicey, perhaps there should be a general rule that whoever is going, you should have someone with them, no matter what sex or gender or race or whatever you are. You should you should have just the buddy system, if you will. That way, if you are in some sort of issue, you at least have one person to help to get out of that situation. Well, during the protest and doing when there's a news event and everybody's error, there's a news conference, there's there's the pack. Right. So, so everybody's together. You're not really going to have one person be being singled out because it's there's, you know, there's twenty people, there is a people holding the news conference. They're all the reporters, right, if the city is doing it, there's security, right, yeah, around. So in that situation you it's going to be very unlikely that that somebody will will make in appropriate comments or do something.

Yeah, right, you know it. But it's if you go. So like an enterprise story and and your and you can it can be wherever and it can also be where you think you're with the pack and you'll be. You know, you're with the pack. So they're safety and numbers. And you know, when I work for a major news organization, we were told if you're safe, if you feel unsafe, you leave, right, right, no story is worth you, right, right. Yeah, and I think that I think that's a good rule. I don't eat. I obviously I don't know if that if that young lady was able to finish that story or not. I know and she and she was doing a good job trying to deflect things. Right, she was doing it. She was trying to stay professional, not not loser cool either, and just trying to reflect it such can get her job done. But you know, those guys were kept pressing and pressing and getting more and more what's the word I'm looking for? Just more, more profane, right, that the rude or thank you, thank you. They're just they were just rude. Yeah, so, you know, you can I take that so long before you're like, okay, that's the let's just get out of here this, these guys are killing me. will do this later or whatever. But I don't know, I guess say it just it just made me feel a certain way and just made me worry and in wonder and worry about the MMJ's that are out there that have to go through this. And how often does this happen? That mean? Obviously, this is just one reporter doing this. It's just this. This a constant thing where a lot of people are at you are going through this. I mean my guests would be this is not unusual, right, right, it's it. This is probably far more common than we would want it to be and that's just a mean. Unfortunate doesn't begin to say it. Yeah, yeah, it's terrible. I don't know why, what would make any a person want to do that to someone who's just trying to do the job. I mean you could be polite, you can say hello and then keep walking or whatever. That's fine, but I don't know why you want to antagonize someone like that was just trying to other job. But again, if you're out there, if you're listening to inside the margins and you're out there and you see Patty or some or some other repporter out there trying to do their job, you know Patty's a very nice person. You could say hello. I'm sure she's hello back to you. But you know, why don't we just keep it, keep everything cool, don't, don't press anything, don't s don't get vulgar, don't, don't, don't belittle or Badger. I just let that person do their job. I don't think the reports aren't trying to do any damage to you or your neighbor, just trying to tell a story. And you know, this is an example to me of intimidation. Yeah, you know, plane, it plane and simple that they were trying to intimidate this person too. I to what point? I don't know. Yeah, but there was intimidation going on. If you listen to it. Could you was there? Could she have felt threatened? Sure, m yeah, yeah, no, it's just it was just completely inappropriate behavior and it you know, it's interesting at one point that the camera starts to move to where the sound is coming from. Yep, and then I'm wondering if that person thinks better of this and says, let me just I don't want to get them on on camera. You know, I just let's just kind of stick to what we're doing here and maybe it'll just go away. Yepka. It kind of reminds me the story you just said. I just, you know what, I'm not even to look I'm just going to keep looking at what we're supposed to look at and just do what I'm supposed to do. And I think that's so what they're so Kudos to the cameraman and the and the journalist. They both were as professional as they could be in that situation. Yeah, and you know, and it's just tough. It's just tough and it makes you realize for people who don't understand how difficult the job can be. That right there shows you how difficult the job could be. It's not just coming up with stories and and being a good writer and doing that, it's also getting when you're getting badgered like that, still trying...

...to stay professional and still doing what you're supposed to do, and that letting that catch you off guard and mess you mess you all up, and that's got to be tough, you know, I mean. Yeah, so Kudos that. So I just want to talk about that real quick. All right, we're going to go. We're going to take a break, Patty, when we come back, there's some conferences happening in regards to the violence. We will talk about that. The first stick a quick break. This is inside the marchers. See you won't go, but I my crow. Do you think got? I see you looking iffy. I hope you ain't trying to get me all looking fishy. I ain't never know. The paint always in a Jiffy. I got a big Fan. So we get busy. Don't like the darkness's boy, even Volos carried pizzas. Boy, you ain't the only one with a gun in again, shout by a boy scout. High Y'all nick's all about a line on a low hit the corner store, trying to make some laugh. Bringing Alla Way. You shouldn't try to miss the pot. That's what you give a talking back. If you are stone coach, gonna make your money. Don't worry about me. I'm trying to gain fame from a bear K team of Poors, mother state family. But my crow. This reality. Don't get torch. You was never out, did you? was on the porch. You'll know about going around in this fucking sport. Twenty four grinding Khalida rids up North Fam don't know where you ad so got to depend on what the pinsake. Ain't no movement on Wednesdays and before Almra. Better make sure your bank ain't empty, because it suck when you stuck in windy CEO's Ain't friendly receptions pitifold the walls and Kyo was trying to flot to get at you, it's aft on. Survived. Got A game respect. If you're rap painting up, they gonna come atch you next. Don't get called slipping on Broadway. That boy Walkley, I see it's get sliced and broad day. If you ain't prepared for what the song say the streets alone or be ready for long days. But I my crow. Do you think God got a Nigga? Never have I had your backage. Just switch it's do, because nowadays most, most wants your spot, like it's all for fun. And you can't walk a month in my air force on was. You can't walk a block in his fucking slugs cut. Your boy took out the hood, but it's still red, rob and nice when I had to go out and collect those crumbs. So my fam Kenya feel like a fucking bump. I learned school to Stumble for just don't fall and if you happen to fall, just try to crawl and if they see you crawling, I'll try to help it all. Just know they wasn't good for the fog. Hey, welcome back to inside the margins. I'm still...

...here with Patty. Right, Patty. So there's some things happening. I believe there's a meeting our conference have happening on Thursday. Can you tell us more about that? Sure? That is the the office of neighborhood safety, which was introduced in a news conference in May. North Clinton area some part of the city's reimagining public safety and taking money from police budget to put into other ways of dealing with with violence and violence prevention. And this is a conference where there will be local people as well as National People. There will be some breakout groups that folks can share some ideas with and it's open to everybody. It is at the Convention Center on Thursday. It's from it's from one to five and it's going to be it's sort of the first time, I guess, that the Office of neighborhood safety is really getting as kind of public, public exposure. You know, been introduced and then not quite you know, you these things kind of they don't fall off the radar, but they introduced to fanfare than the work start, so that it's sure that's it's not in the spotlight anymore and this is sort of bringing it back out into the spotlight. They have hired a coordinator, so this is the first the conference is the first step. Then after this they are going to put out what's called their request for proposal to get a consultant type person who can canvas the city, neighborhoods, individuals, groups, whatever and come up with a strategy, a comprehensive strategy for violence prevention, violence interruption. I'm not quite sure what violence interruption means. I think we're going to hear a lot about that and hopefully it's not just going to be jargon. Start to define what a violence interrupter is. I'm not I'm not quite sure. I know, yeah, but part of it is, you know, we've got there's a lot of grassroots organizations and Daniel Limon Torus, who's the commissioner of the department recreation in Human Services, talks about them and saying that they have people in the neighborhoods, they have ideas, they have they have the experience, they don't always have the infrastructure and what she's trying to do is to get them, set them up for infrastructure so that they can actually, I think, you know, do more than what it is they're doing and be part of a more comprehensive plan. So we'll see. They'll be a strategic plan developed in the next probably six or eight months. She's hoping that it is can be unveiled in the spring. Apparently the violent summit is supposed to be an annual event and and we'll see. So I said, you know, okay, how you going to measure the success and she says it's not just going to be in the reduction of gunshots. It has to be in something that's that's that's more lasting. Sure, because we reduce gun shots in the past only to have them come back up. So what? So, what? How you really going to measure this? Are you going to measure the success? And the other thing she'd mentioned was you know, how long is it going to take? And she was very blunt saying that this city does not have a lot of patients for things. Yeah, and so you have to be able to see this through. It's not going to happen overnight. Yeah, and if people going to lose patience and say, Oh, if the six months I didn't work, so we're going to throw this out and start...

...something else, you can't keep doing that. You can't keep reinventing wheels. At some point you've got to just sold we have this round object, let's kind of roll it down the street for a while and see what it does. Right, right, you got you got to give you got to give the plans time to unfold. The man you start working, you can't. Results don't happen overnight. I think we mentioned that before. To old and you are right and that's it. That is something that our city is guilty of. Is Everyone always want this has to be done, as have you done right now, and which I get. I understand. We everyone's tired of what's happening, but you also have to understand that you can't. You can't save the world in one day. It takes it takes. It takes a while to get things that actually work and the plans to be implemented, to work properly, to see the results. You did mention, which I do like. This is the the conference has happening on Thursday. Is Open to the public. You' said correct so. So if you're listening and you and you wanted to give your input into what you think is good for the community, here's your chance. Right, this is a chance for you to actually at least listen, or no one here I've gain. I'm not sure how what it's going to be like for people who want to speak. I'm not quite sure a lot of the would just sticks of that. Sure, sure, if you go to the city website, city of Rochester Dot Gob, and then look for office of neighborhood safety, there's information about the conference. There out have more details for you, but at least go for a period of time. Yeah, and listen to what you want to say. You listen to what is being said R and if I have an opportunity, to give your two cents, and certainly two cents and, you know, and maybe a little bit more. The other thing, too, is that's is there are a lot of groups doing this work. Sometimes I wonder, and once heard this years ago and I've said it a lot since that a lot it happen if nobody wants to take credit. Yep. So how do we get everybody to be on the same page? And that's one of the things that that Daniel Lamon Torre says, is we've got to come up with things that people, everybody, can agree on. Start there, work from there, figure out a way to measure the results of that and then move move on to other will move through the things that need to be done, but you have to start someplace. You can talk forever and never get it going. Yes, but people were going to have to say, you know what, I really want this. But if, for other groups say we really want that, all right, maybe we need to do that before we do this. But you know what, don't forget about this right, don't forget about what I want to do, but let's start where more people want to go, and I just think that there needs to be Bob Duffy, the head of the Chamber Commerce, from a police chief, from the mayor, hopeful says it. Rochester loves its silos, and I think that that is true, that you have to we need to flatten things and work across, not not, you know, up and down. Yep, and that's true. To you're right, everyone wants to be the beacon. Right, it's so. But yeah, Yep, you gotta, you gotta listen and understand what is most important to the most than than what is most important just to you, and you said it perfectly. At four groups all think one thing is important and you're the only one that thinks this one thing is important. Not saying what you think is important is not important. It's just maybe the direction in to going is it. Take care of what everyone else believes is important first, and then we can get to what you think is the point event and may have to wait. It may have to wait a run right. So I think that's great and in you're right. Whether you get, whether you get to actually give your two cents or not. Still is a good opportunity for if you want to see what's being talked about and what and what some suggestions are, you'll have a chance to go and hear that yourself. So I definitely if you're a person who wants to be more involved and seeing heard and and maybe possibly get a chance to give your input, I suggest you definitely attend this conference. Against it's Thursday. And what's the time again, Patty? One hundred and five hundred five sent at the after consul. Right. So, meanwhile, Tuesday, what's Tuesday? The twenty seventh? Right, yes, at ten o'clock at Orioc the US attorney is...

...having a little listening session. Remember he came on July seven. A bunch of neighbors heard about he was having an out door news conference. They came that they just started asking him a lot of questions about, you know, how were you going to do, what you're going to do, how you're going to come into our neighborhoods? You don't live here, you don't know what's important to us. He promised that he would, he would have US session for them and he's kept his promise and that's going to be on the twenty seven at ten o'clock, probably about an hour, hour and a half, and that's an Oro oc on on Chestnut Street. That's going to be he's going to make a, you know, statement why he's here, give a probably a little update on the Federal Task Force and then listen. So at this point that may change by tomorrow morning. It's this point. I don't know that there's sign ups and people go. I think it's probably going to be a microphone. That will be you know, people will line up to speak, probably get three minutes to make their statement. Sure, you know somebody will take notes and and just move move along to get to hear as many people as possible. It's I don't believe it's not. I don't think any's going to get solved then. I think they're just going to listen and take notes and want to hear people here, people's concerns. That sure much their speeches. Right. So my guests, strict guess, will be, you know, probably like a three minute time when it's spending on how many people show up. Yeah, three, three minute time limit. What's you know, we want to hear as many people as possible and move through and then they'll, you know, see what they get, call the list or distill the list and see what the common themes are and go from there. That's awesome. So that that that's tomorrow at the Rio see. So again another opportunity to be involved and get your voice heard, to see what is so you can get your concerns out there. So the reason why it's important that we mention these things, Patti, is ill as a lot of the things that we always hear is, you know, people aren't listening to us, people don't people don't pay attention to us, and I'm plus, I want to make sure that I am heard. Here are some opportunities to to listen and also voice your opinion. So these are two. I think these are great events for people to get involved with. Again tomorrow at the Rio see and then Thursday at the Convention Center. So if you want to get yourself involved in some of these things are at least hear what's going on. I definitely suggest you participate in these, as these are pretty pretty cool events. Again, and I'm sorry repeat or the time for tomorrow's event ten o'clock clock. Thank you. Canam can I answer probably run about an hour, hour and a half is what they have it sort of blocked out for okay, great, great, so there. And you need a mask to get into ORIOC? Yes, yes, the plan to go there. They definitely they still have a mask. WHO AT AUREO? So we stay, did we last week in the news conference I was there for? So I'm assuming they're still going to have the mask, the mask rule. So definitely have a mask with you for that one. Yeah, I I always said you shouldn't throw your masks out yet because obviously some things are still happening with this covid anyway. So it's good. It's a good idea to keep your best all right, we're take warmer break and speaking of Covid, I have a couple things I want to mention about covid before we get out of here, Patty. So let's take a quick break, we'll do a little covid talk and right back this is it's like the merchants. You Up State Your Rossi now backed with Nice, with the poem, poetry, emotions, problific, prim persistent, yawn posted smoke to get hot. I'm medicating a Viot spit hip that I bring you to a better state. Get the sad how these rap is turning up when you can't be outside is when you see so you sad checking in on your line. My next can you know? We...

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I think. I think having masks, I don't think that's I think wearing them when you're in close quarters, even even outside. I don't know that that's a horrible I look it. We've done it for a year and a half now. What's what's it sounds? I do since howous to say what's the big deal about it? But we've we've gone through a year and a half. Sure nobody wants to wear them anymore, but I don't. I don't see. I mean I went over the weekend grocery shopping and I went to a big box store and I put it on both times. Right, right, you know that old at it, that old saying. Better, better to be safe to sorry, you know, I mean it can't hurt or people really didn't. They were. There were number of people who had them in it's interesting to me to see when I see parents with little kids, to see it's interesting. Bad analogy, but it's like watching families when they bicycle. Does the kid have a helmet and the parents don't? Yeah, so was like with masks. Is The kid have the mask and the parents don't? And I have to say that most times that I saw you know what looked like a young child, younger than twelve, the parents also had masks, and I thought that was a good yeah, good role model. Yep. And that makes sense because because, as you know, or if you don't now we're going to say it right now, even if you're vaccine it, you can still carry it and you can still give it us and you can still give it to somebody. So if your child who's under twelve is not vaccinated, because right now vaccines aren't available for our children that age, and you are vaccine, so you think everything's cool. Surprised? It may not be. You maybe you may be carrying the COVID virus and you may give it to your unvaccinated child and that could be bad. So that's a very good observation. If you have younger children, you're out and about, you know, no, it's you want to keep your childre safe. So the best way with you that is to wear have everyone to wear a masks, those kind of those, those kind of situations. But yeah, I just sizs, I just want it just punished. Interesting to see this, this Delta, this Delta variant, kind of working through people who are not vaccinated. I know there's talks. I forgot who mentioned it, but they're they're saying that they're close, they're getting closer to coming up with the vaccines for for children under twelve, and this is not obviously not available today, but they're they're working on it and if they think they're, they think sometime in the near future it should be ready, but we don't know what that's going to be. It's kind of what I'm as. That's the my long way of saying we don't know what that's going to be. Well, you know in school is what a month right was exactly correct. So in a month. It's this is the last week of July. So what do we have? Six weeks till school start? Pretty Much Yepp, and I believe some of the colleges are still I believe colleges. Some of the colleges are still mandating vaccines or masks. So they're still they're still trying to be safe. Yeah, people, just, I guess, this whole portion of the show that we're talking about, just to remind you that covid's not gone. I know, so, I know sometimes it feels that way when you see all these concerts and events and sporting events with fans and you're like, Oh, maybe it's over. It's not over. Just want to remind everyone you still got to be diligent, you still gotta take those precautions. You know, we're fighting the good fight, but the fight's not over yet, and that's that's exactly all right. Well, the few things I want to say before we get out of here. I want to mention real quick that patty is a fantastic journalist and so is the minority reporter. So they're fantastic paper. So you certainly should check out the body reporter. Go ahead and go to minority reporter dotnet. Again, that's minority reporter dotnet. All the stories that matter to you, you can find those in that paper. Again, it's a fantastic publication. I read it, I'm as I subscribe to it, and you will have an option to subscribe to it as well at whether you want the digital or the hard copy, whichever one you prefer, you can subscribe right there on the website. Also, just like we're talking about these conferences happening, we also want to hear your thoughts,...

...your opinions, what we should be talking about, what's important to you. The best ways to do that? As one, you can spend an email to editor at minority report DOTNET. Again, that's editor at minority re minority report DOTNET. Don't listen, though, read your suggestions, your comments or questions, whatever you want to your, wherever feedback you want to give. They will take a look at that. And also you can go to our website inside the margins RADIOCOM. There's a contact US session there and you can submit your question suggestions there as well. We always want to hear from you, and if you're tuning in right now, come on. We do this. We tell you every week we're on at three o'clock on Monday. So you you missed it again, but it's okay. It's okay. Well, number one will be back next Monday at number two. You can go to our website at an inside the margin railcom and listen to this and all the past episodes. Else you can find us on, I heardcom and where where you get your podcast? All right, Patty, we survived another Monday, as we always do. So what do you think? Should we do this again next week? Oh, make me an offer. I'll offer you my people. Have my people called here. You know what that'll work for, Patty Singer, this is Matt Wilson. This is inside the margins and will see you next week. Do you have a topic that you would like to discussed on inside the margins? We would love to hear from you. Please send your thoughts, comments or questions to inside margins at gmailcom.

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